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View Poll Results: Is the new revised pork rule good for BBQ? | |||
Yes! | 33 | 28.21% | |
No! | 18 | 15.38% | |
Meh | 19 | 16.24% | |
Pork is now a grilling contest | 5 | 4.27% | |
Nothing changes for me | 34 | 29.06% | |
Farker! | 8 | 6.84% | |
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07-11-2013, 02:42 PM | #31 |
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07-11-2013, 02:44 PM | #32 | |
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07-11-2013, 02:44 PM | #33 | |
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Ok reading this over I realize something quite interesting. This rule seems to be very similar to the BBQ-Brethren rule set which has served its event flawlessly in the past few years. Many cooks like the extra clarity and the fact that the rule is still a guideline rather than a directive. Many of the original KCBS rules as well as the BBQ-Brethren rules were/are written as general guideline which assumes there is integrity among teams/cooks to participate in a fair manner. The previous inceptions of the pork rule seemed to call into question all the team integrity rather then offer them a proper course of action.
I think they took a good direction here, albeit without the 5 lb rule which probably should have remained. Let me see if I can find the brethren rule set and post a link. I think they are nearly the same. Quote:
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/rules.pdf <~~~if anyone wants to see more. As you can see there is a bit more wording but the intent is the same.
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07-11-2013, 02:46 PM | #34 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Shhhhhhh...we already know you shigged NTHOLE's secret cooking method but you don't have to be broadcastiong it like that...
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07-11-2013, 02:48 PM | #35 |
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07-11-2013, 02:51 PM | #36 |
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I must be so good at shiggin that I can do it without knowing and on people I don't know personally at contests i didn't attend
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07-11-2013, 03:00 PM | #37 |
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Hey Skip.... I ain't in a 4-year battle over the rule. My team cooks pork following the current rules and will continue to do so. From reading stuff here and seeing how many butts many teams cook, we probably don't follow the procedure many to and I'm willing to bet we put similar portions in the box.
We've done fairly well in the pork category over the last 24-30 months, I don't see much changing in our camp....new rule or not. Carry on, I'll continue to watch the show from the bleachers when I'm bored. |
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07-11-2013, 03:07 PM | #38 | |
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07-11-2013, 03:10 PM | #39 |
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Basically everyone will interpret the rule as they wish... 90% of the KCBS rules are not enforceable anyway... Cheaters will always cheat.
The rule is straightforward. Cook a WHOLE piece of meat. Once it's cooked do whatever you want with it within food safety guidelines. TRIMMING does not equal PARTING. |
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07-11-2013, 04:14 PM | #40 | |
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PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic and/or Whole Shoulder. After trimming, pork shall be cooked whole (bone in or bone out), however, once cooked, it may be separated and returned to the cooker at the cook's discretion. It may be turned in chopped, pulled, chunked, sliced or a combination of any of those. Now, the rule states it must be cooked "whole" but "after trimming." Now , with no weight limit, it could be argued that trimming the butt down to just the MM would be allowed. There is nothing stating how big the butt needs to be, or that the butt needs to be a whole butt. Heck, if I trim anything edible from a butt, or a brisket, or my spare ribs, am I not cooking a less-than-whole piece of meat? A competitor wanting to not play within the spirit of the rule but instead wanting to play semantics could just say he took the butt and trimmed off the part he didn't want to use, everything except the MM portion, and then cooked the remainder as a whole to 145, and then split the MM in half to get more bark. So, now what is the definition of trimming? lol
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07-11-2013, 04:19 PM | #41 |
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Got to watch that weight rule with the crap farmland has been putting out. Untrimmed 4lb 8.9oz garbage
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07-11-2013, 04:25 PM | #42 | |
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Now, If i want to just use the MM portion of the butt, wouldn't trimming and tossing the rest of the butt follow my above definition and also the wording of the rules? Keep in mind the rule says "after trimming, pork shall be cooked whole." and that MM is pork butt. Now, don't get me wrong, I understand the spirit of the rule and I would go with that, but I am just pointing out how the wording of the rule opens up a can of worms.
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07-11-2013, 04:57 PM | #43 | |
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Yeah it looks good...but how does it smell? "you're eating tree RAT, tree RAT, you're eating RAT!" -- landarc Last edited by Skip; 07-11-2013 at 05:21 PM.. |
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07-11-2013, 05:02 PM | #44 | |
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That depends on the definition of trimming. If the trim involves removing distinguishable muscle groups in the shoulder, butt or picnic you aren't trimming anymore. You are manipulating the piece of meat. I think this is why the "cooked whole" portion of the definition was reintroduced.
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07-11-2013, 05:10 PM | #45 |
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The only part I don't understand is where they define what I can turn in.
WTF More complicated, not less. |
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