CyberQ WiFi Web Service Info (Super Nerdy)

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I don't understand half of what you posted but I can appreciate the time it took you to figure it out and write it up. Someone will search for this type of info and find it because you took the time. Good work!

Thanks doggie, for the critique. I've been looking at that unit, but am waiting for some comments and reviews before I pull the trigger.

Bob

What Just happened? I think my brain is fried

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Is there an android app available now?
Or is that something that would have to be developed?
jon

Doggie: Lemme lay this out, maybe you, or sombody else knows?

One feature of the BBQ Guru systems (I was looking at a DigiQ DX2), that I like is the open lid detection system. From what I've read, it works well. I've read the CyberQ WiFi .pdf file, and it does have this feature.
In my research, The Rock's Bar-B-Que Stoker system does not have an automatic open lid detect system. You have to bring up a menu, and manually turn off the fan for 5 minutes. To me, that just seems annoying. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's better.

Do you know if the Stoker open lid system is indeed manual? Is it clunky to use?
Do you know how well the CyberQ WiFi open lid system works?

Bob

BobM said:

Doggie: Lemme lay this out, maybe you, or sombody else knows?

One feature of the BBQ Guru systems (I was looking at a DigiQ DX2), that I like is the open lid detection system. From what I've read, it works well. I've read the CyberQ WiFi .pdf file, and it does have this feature.
In my research, The Rock's Bar-B-Que Stoker system does not have an automatic open lid detect system. You have to bring up a menu, and manually turn off the fan for 5 minutes. To me, that just seems annoying. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's better.

Do you know if the Stoker open lid system is indeed manual? Is it clunky to use?
Do you know how well the CyberQ WiFi open lid system works?

Bob

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The Stoker system for lid opening is manual but if you use a program like Stoker Log then that software in particular automates it. With the Stoker Log software you can also set how long you want it to shut off the fan so it doesn't have to be a full 5 minutes every time. It bases it off a quick drop in temp at the pit probe, something like 8* drop in 1 second will set off the auto-lid detection.

Personally I am looking for something more manual and have resorted to using the manual feature on the Stoker itself. I like to be proactive and shut the fan off before I even open the door to let everything settle down for a few seconds first. It probably doesn't make a difference except in my head. I just wish that I could have it shut off for less than 5 minutes although again, it really doesn't affect my recovery times much.

Edit: In regards to it being clunky, it could be if you are using the stoker unit itself for monitoring temps instead of a separate program on a laptop. If you are monitoring things on the Stoker you need to be in the temps menu and scanning the temp probes, if you then want to shut down the fan it will take a few button presses to exit out of that menu, go to the blower menu, select the 5min off and confirm it so it can be a little bit of a hassle. For myself, since I am using a laptop and monitoring temps that way I can just leave the Stoker in the Blower menu and it's ready to shut off the blower each time with just 2 quick button presses.

Thanks for the responses.

At present, I do not plan on using a laptop or smart phone with the controller, though I may in the future.
For now, it would operate it directly from it's control panel/menu system, which is why I want it to be simple and easy to use.

Bob

fatdoggie said:

I just got my WiFi Guru in late this afternoon. I haven't had time to hook it up to my BGE yet, but I did get it on the network and started poking around under the hood to see how it works and what I would need to do to get and Android app capable of doing some basic configuration and alarming.

Here is a link to the documentation I've compiled about the XML status and HTTP posts variables: http://db.tt/VFJgKrae

The Good:

• The most important status items are available for read via XML over HTTP and all writes are done via HTTP posts. It's about as simple an interface as I would have reasonably expected to hope for
• All POSTs can be done to the "/" URI, so in theory, you can write any (all?) variables in one go without having to worry about what vars belong to what page.
• Once the WiFi was set up correctly, I had no problems connecting to my WPA2 network and accessing from any of my devices. The simple UI probably even works OK with very old web browsers (I saw explicit support for IE6 in the javascript)

The Not Quite So Good:

• The GUI is unsecured for both reads and writes, so be careful about putting it on the internet on standard ports!

• The CPU seems to be VERY low powered - It takes a while to spit out the HTML and small image for the main page (the XML for status.xml is fast though). Between the speed and some of the comments in the code, I'd guess this little guy is running on a PIC or similar embedded microcontroller and not a bigger ARM based system. This means adding lots of internal features later on probably can't be done (HTTPS and auth, for example would be tough).

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the overall design of the system and the CPU is plenty fast enough to feed the raw status XML to a mobile, desktop, or web based app that can provide enhanced logging/graphing and control if desired.

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Awesome...I just received my CyberQ Wifi yesterday. I dabble with app development and this is just what I was looking for. I can do some cool stuff with the status.xml page. Thanks for the post!

fatdoggie said:

I just got my WiFi Guru in late this afternoon. I haven't had time to hook it up to my BGE yet, but I did get it on the network and started poking around under the hood to see how it works and what I would need to do to get and Android app capable of doing some basic configuration and alarming.

Here is a link to the documentation I've compiled about the XML status and HTTP posts variables: http://db.tt/VFJgKrae

The Good:

• The most important status items are available for read via XML over HTTP and all writes are done via HTTP posts. It's about as simple an interface as I would have reasonably expected to hope for
• All POSTs can be done to the "/" URI, so in theory, you can write any (all?) variables in one go without having to worry about what vars belong to what page.
• Once the WiFi was set up correctly, I had no problems connecting to my WPA2 network and accessing from any of my devices. The simple UI probably even works OK with very old web browsers (I saw explicit support for IE6 in the javascript)

The Not Quite So Good:

• The GUI is unsecured for both reads and writes, so be careful about putting it on the internet on standard ports!

• The CPU seems to be VERY low powered - It takes a while to spit out the HTML and small image for the main page (the XML for status.xml is fast though). Between the speed and some of the comments in the code, I'd guess this little guy is running on a PIC or similar embedded microcontroller and not a bigger ARM based system. This means adding lots of internal features later on probably can't be done (HTTPS and auth, for example would be tough).

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the overall design of the system and the CPU is plenty fast enough to feed the raw status XML to a mobile, desktop, or web based app that can provide enhanced logging/graphing and control if desired.

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Yes, it would have been nice if the service returned jsonp for cross domain implementations, ie client side ajax jquery. So the only choice is through a proxy, local web service or a gui application. I have been looking at xamarin for creating an Andriod and iOS application. I can do the Andriod now as I don't have a mac for iOS. Using xamarin the code base would be the same and easier developing for both platforms.

Oh, and by the way. Doesn't look like you have been too lazy lately :wink:

Ok, here you go. I'm terrible at documentation, code is worth a thousand words :wink:

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Web;
using System.Net;
using System.IO;
using System.Xml.Linq;

namespace CyberQWifi
{

/// <summary>
/// Summary description for CyberQData
/// </summary>
///

public class CyberQObjectModel
{
public decimal OUTPUT_PERCENT { get; set; }
public TimeSpan TIMER_CURR { get; set; }
public int COOK_TEMP { get; set; }
public int FOOD1_TEMP { get; set; }
public int FOOD2_TEMP { get; set; }
public int FOOD3_TEMP { get; set; }
public int COOK_STATUS { get; set; }
public int FOOD1_STATUS { get; set; }
public int FOOD2_STATUS { get; set; }
public int FOOD3_STATUS { get; set; }
public int TIMER_STATUS { get; set; }
public int DEG_UNITS { get; set; }
public int COOK_PROPBAND { get; set; }
public int COOK_RAMP { get; set; }

public CyberQObjectModel()
{
OUTPUT_PERCENT = 0m;
TIMER_CURR = TimeSpan.Zero;
COOK_TEMP = 0;
FOOD1_TEMP = 0;
FOOD2_TEMP = 0;
FOOD3_TEMP = 0;
COOK_STATUS = 0;
FOOD1_STATUS = 0;
FOOD2_STATUS = 0;
FOOD3_STATUS = 0;
TIMER_STATUS = 0;
DEG_UNITS = 0;
COOK_PROPBAND = 0;
COOK_RAMP = 0;

}
}

public class CyberQData
{
public CyberQData() { }

public static CyberQObjectModel GetCyberQData(string url)
{
var xdocTimeInfo = XDocument.Load(url);
var dt = (from ti in xdocTimeInfo.Descendants("nutcstatus")
select new
{
OUTPUT_PERCENT = ti.Element("OUTPUT_PERCENT").Value,
TIMER_CURR = ti.Element("TIMER_CURR").Value,

COOK_TEMP = ti.Element("COOK_TEMP").Value,
FOOD1_TEMP = ti.Element("FOOD1_TEMP").Value,
FOOD2_TEMP = ti.Element("FOOD2_TEMP").Value,
FOOD3_TEMP = ti.Element("FOOD3_TEMP").Value,

COOK_STATUS = ti.Element("COOK_STATUS").Value,
FOOD1_STATUS = ti.Element("FOOD1_STATUS").Value,
FOOD2_STATUS = ti.Element("FOOD2_STATUS").Value,
FOOD3_STATUS = ti.Element("FOOD3_STATUS").Value,

TIMER_STATUS = ti.Element("TIMER_STATUS").Value,
DEG_UNITS = ti.Element("DEG_UNITS").Value,
COOK_PROPBAND = ti.Element("COOK_PROPBAND").Value,
COOK_RAMP = ti.Element("COOK_RAMP").Value

}).FirstOrDefault();
var cyberQom = new CyberQObjectModel
{
COOK_PROPBAND = dt.COOK_PROPBAND.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
COOK_RAMP = dt.COOK_RAMP.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
COOK_STATUS = dt.COOK_STATUS.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
COOK_TEMP = dt.COOK_TEMP.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
DEG_UNITS = dt.DEG_UNITS.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD1_STATUS = dt.FOOD1_STATUS.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD1_TEMP = dt.FOOD1_TEMP.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD2_STATUS = dt.FOOD2_STATUS.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD2_TEMP = dt.FOOD2_TEMP.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD3_STATUS = dt.FOOD3_STATUS.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
FOOD3_TEMP = dt.FOOD3_TEMP.SafeReadObject<int>(0),
OUTPUT_PERCENT = dt.OUTPUT_PERCENT.SafeReadObject<decimal>(0m),
TIMER_CURR = TimeSpan.Parse(dt.TIMER_CURR).SafeReadObject<TimeSpan>(TimeSpan.Zero),
TIMER_STATUS = dt.TIMER_STATUS.SafeReadObject<int>(0)
};

return cyberQom;
}
}
}

And here is the implementation... YAY WE HAVE DATA



Ill start working on charting next and a way to save the chart for future reference.

fatdoggie said:

palmtreerfb,

I've never used Ximarin before, but I do love C# and Mono. Is there a free/open/comunity version of the tools, or do you have to buy both the Android and iOS versions?

I built this little monitor toy in about an hour as a Flex mobile app (yeah, gross, I know..) so I'd have something to monitor with this weekend. Unless I can find an open source cross-platform toolkit this may be my first Android app that is more complex than "Hello World"

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No, Ximarin is not free or opensource unfortunately. But I'm a .net developer and I'm going to use what I can code quickly without having to ramp up on learning another development platform. Plus I already have charting components for .Net and that's what I'm in this for. The ability to chart my cooks.

I started my app last night (thanks to this great info). I am not going with a mobile app, instead I am going with a windows forms app. I have plans to implement charting, data exporting, etc. I will post some screenshots when I have it more fleshed out. Again...thanks for posting this for us nerds. :mrgreen: