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Old 06-08-2017, 05:06 PM   #31
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If cost is a factor, I would choose a kettle.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:13 PM   #32
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Just do what I did and wait till she goes on vacation... Wait. Hey, I still have the WSCG and I'm not sleeping on the couch...
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:13 PM   #33
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OK, I've been thinking about this, and here's my question.
I'm lucky, my wife frequently asks me why I don't get a new cooker. But for those who have to justify their purchases to their life partner, with cost a factor, kettle or kamado?
If you are talking about value for the $, and money for the BBQ budget is tight, it is really hard to beat the standard 22.5" Weber kettle. You can get a dozen of the old school no frills models for the price of one Kamado. Even the 26" only runs $300 new at list price. Good luck finding a decent kamado near that size (24") for $300.

I give the Kamado the nod for use in winter because it is less impacted by cold or snow. It also uses less charcoal. The high insulation and low airflow can also mean less moisture loss which is a plus for certain things. Once up to temp, the large heat mass of a ceramic kamado makes it more stable, but also much harder to cool down if you over shoot. I would say the kamado is a better smoker than a kettle but that is relative as neither are great smokers. All in all, I think I could do anything I can do on the Kamado on a kettle, maybe a touch not as well or with a bit more work needed.

The kettle though is cheaper, lighter weight and more portable, less fragile, and the lid comes completely off/more out of the way.

For the same size and price, I would choose the kamado, but with a big price difference and the ability to get a 26" or 37.5" kettle, that is my vote for value. OK, the 37.5" ranch at over $1000 is not really a great value, especially next to its little brothers, but it is a great grill.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:44 PM   #34
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Pbc.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:10 PM   #35
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Only one? I cant answer that. Great video by the way, I was one of the people that watched it last night. I have 5 eggs and it seems like a dozen webers, and I thought your analysis was spot on.
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They are OK for pizza, but the inability to see in without opening the lid is not ideal, especially for Neapolitan pizza that cooks in 2-3 minutes or less. Too easy to go from not done to burnt. I do enjoy the results I get with the occasional pizza on my Pit Boss, but if I was super serious about pizza I would get a blackstone or other purpose designed pizza oven.
We peer down the four-inch diameter hole in the top of the dome to check for indications of doneness when cooking pizzas.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:43 PM   #37
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OK, I've been thinking about this, and here's my question.
I'm lucky, my wife frequently asks me why I don't get a new cooker. But for those who have to justify their purchases to their life partner, with cost a factor, kettle or kamado?
/Get a divorce get what you want


But seriously, for me a kettle. Maybe even space age dancook
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:45 PM   #38
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Just one?

Weber Summit Charcoal...

Why? It will do everything and there is nothing to crack or break so it even eliminates warranty issues...
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:02 PM   #39
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If I could have only one, it would be the 22.5in WSM.

And this comes from a man who owns a Kamado Joe.

In a pinch, the WSM can be used to sear steaks.
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Great analysis, agree with many of your points. All good cookers.

For those looking for a non-ceramic Kamado, I went through that thought process recently. My Bayou Classic Ceramic Cypress suffered a fatal lid crack for the very reasons stated by BBM, a misaligned hinge. Something I probably should have paid more attention to although I did adjust it periodically. Was it a great cooker? No, it was a good cooker and my go to was always the Bubba Keg. The fact that the BC is no longer sold and replacement lids weren't available led me to look at other Kamados, non-ceramics.

Tossing ceramics out of the decision process left me with a handful of choices. Blaze Aluminum, Caliber Stainless Steel, another Big Steel Keg/Broil King Keg, Akorn. Had I known about the Weber Summit Charcoal I might have considered it.

With a Google search I stumbled across the Goldens' Cast Iron. Not a well known brand, hardly any reviews, and frankly I took a chance on it. It was cheaper than the Blaze and the Caliber. I wasn't keen on the Akorn reviews. Wanted something different than my Bubba Keg.

I've only had it six weeks or so and am pleased with the purchase. It does everything I need in a Kamado.

Have not tried overnite low and slows yet, those are on the agenda.

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Cast Iron, not ceramic
Built like a tank
Will outlast me, my great-great-great* grandchildren will get to use it.
Cooks thus far have been effortless, like I've been using it for years
Interaction with the company has been outstanding

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Unknown company making its mark in the Kamado world (though they've been in business as an iron foundry since 1882)
Price is up there, but for me it was a good value
Won't be tailgating with it

Just another Kamado to consider and solely my opinion based on ownership. I'm probably the only forum member who owns one!

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Old 06-08-2017, 07:35 PM   #41
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But seriously, for me a kettle. Maybe even space age dancook
Non-valuable answer. Lose- lose result.
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26" Weber kettle...or if you're on a budge, a nice hole in the ground will do.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:24 PM   #43
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We Brethren should Watch Justin's reviews on YouTube and put a thanks in there as it helps him cover some cost.

Super vids on your channel Sir!
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Non-valuable answer. Lose- lose result.
Second line was my real answer. I feel kettle for versatility and price is the way to go
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:27 PM   #45
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I can understand why alot of the Northern Brethren choose the ceramics but how long do they last? I'm liking the WSCG.
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