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02-09-2010, 01:39 PM | #1 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 07-31-08
Location: Belton, mo
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Why even have kcbs/ what can we do?
I got to thinking about this with all of this complaining about the KCBS. Why do we even need them? Granted if you win a Grand you get to go to there invitationals but lets take that out of the consideration. If your not in it for the ToY race what is the point. I say that jokingly, I do understand what they do and it would be nearly impossible to do away with them.(guaranteed prize money, judging, scoring, rules, reps, etc.) How do I, the average member make a difference. How do I hurt them so to speek. How do I make them listen? I don't want to give up my membership and that to me seems the only to make them listen. I understand it is hard to get a group of people to agree on anything but what really bothers me the most is the lack of transparency. If we all had the ability to hear the entire board meeting that would eliminate 95% of the problems. Don't tell me they can't do that, it is a complete joke. If we have the ability to do online elections we have the ability to broadcast our meeting live or the next day on our website. Hell, most of us listen to the BBQ Central show. How the heck dose Greg do it? Dose he work for NASA or something? NO, he wanted to do it and found a way! KCBS can do this if they want to. I am sure we could take a collection and come up with enough money to pay for a microphone and a computer if that is the hold up. Sorry to rant, I just feel if I knew what was going on at the board meeting I might not get so worked up about these things. And if the people on the board new we could hear they might perform differently. What do you guys think?
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02-09-2010, 02:12 PM | #2 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-09-07
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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When was the last time you sent an e-mail to any KCBS Board member or attempted to speak to one of them on the phone?
Have you ever called in and listened to a Board meeting? Did you vote in the last election? Many of the Board members are also Contest Reps and you can very easily speak to them at an event. If you want change within the organization, you need to take action yourself and make your voice heard. And voicing it on an internet forum isn't usually the best method to accomplish this goal.
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02-09-2010, 02:30 PM | #3 | |
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Join Date: 04-14-07
Location: Lakeland Florida
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I'll take a shot at answering this.
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02-09-2010, 02:47 PM | #4 | |
is One Chatty Farker
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02-09-2010, 02:59 PM | #5 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 11-11-07
Location: Gone
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I will add this. If you want to change something... quitting or not joining it and working within the actual body itself changes nuthin.
Change comes within. KCBS got the way it is because people quit.... whatever side you are on... it got the way it was because whoever your for or against stayed with it and changed it and the quitters quit.
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02-09-2010, 02:59 PM | #6 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-25-06
Location: Elk Creek, Ky.
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As long there is a contest, a shot at the jack, hang out with my freinds, have a chance to win back my money and compete against the best in the nation, I can handle whatever KCBS has going..
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02-09-2010, 03:08 PM | #7 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 02-03-06
Location: tulsa oklahoma
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I agree...
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02-09-2010, 03:11 PM | #8 | |
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Join Date: 08-11-06
Location: landrum, sc
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02-09-2010, 03:16 PM | #9 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 06-09-08
Location: Forker River, NJ
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I am so confused about this entire KCBS drama. How is it affecting our lives? It's not. It seems to me many people have way too much time on their hands and have nothing going on in their lives. I love the KCBS, they give me great weekends and great people to meet.
Please stop wasting your time and crying on forums, put that time into voicing your opinion to the target and maybe you will get somewhere. I said in another blog somewhere. If I spent the time at my business that some people spend crying over BBQ associations I would be RICH. Enjoy the comps, enjoy, the people, enjoy the food, and be thankful that there are people who volunteer to, to make these comps happen. If you are not involved and don't put in your time you have no right to bitch.
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02-09-2010, 03:18 PM | #10 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 09-22-06
Location: Pleasant Valley NY
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"guaranteed prize money, judging, scoring, rules, reps, etc." for $35 a year is a bargain in my book
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02-09-2010, 03:22 PM | #11 |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 06-09-08
Location: Forker River, NJ
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Sean you could not be any more right!
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02-09-2010, 03:33 PM | #12 | |
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Join Date: 09-21-09
Location: boudez,pa
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Amen!!
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It was kind of like people complaining about only having 5-10k in prize money, yet the TLC shows are giving away 10k to someone to build the best burger.. Lets see who would cry when they took the comps and turned them into winner take all!! who will be happy then.. |
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02-09-2010, 03:53 PM | #13 | |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 07-13-08
Location: Happytown, IA
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On topic - drama is interesting when there is nothing else going on, but for me - who cares what happens in a board meeting. I've been on enough boards to know that some people will ALWAYS be pleased with the decisions and some people will ALWAYS be pi$$@d. The best leaders ignore both extremes and focus on the majority of folks in the middle.
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02-09-2010, 04:03 PM | #14 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 09-23-09
Location: Eau Claire WI (finally)
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I just got my KCBS membership (family)
Part of me is going what the Fark is all this about, no real back story to put it all in context. After a little while my light bulb went on. It is reminiscent of several non-profits that I have worked with, for and on occasion from within against. Club mentality meets growing pains. Chit happens, times change There is room for other sanctioning groups if that is where you want to put your energy. Do so with the expectation that others will also split off that group for their own BBQ ideology. That happens every time there is an assertion of one truth. I'm fairly new here but it looks as if there will be some BBQ looking like NASCAR and others dirt track and demo derbys, just a matter of time as Que comes into its new skin. Level setting BBQ for all is my understanding of the Brethren ideal, learning, sharing and yanking each others chains, I like that.
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02-09-2010, 04:12 PM | #15 |
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Join Date: 08-08-07
Location: Cartersville, GA
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Also keep in mind that the majority of this drama is being center-staged at Basso's, which is heavily censored. I myself have had two posts removed today, presumably for saying something Ray didn't like. (One post was a reply to a person asking a question about connecting to BBQ people via Facebook)
Deciphering truth from gossip is made doubly difficult when all the information is passed through the filter of a single person's ideas of what should and shouldn't be allowed. Granted the BBQ Forum is Ray's personal property and he absolutely has the right to do whatever he wishes there. I just wish that KCBS would create an official vehicle for the timely exchange of information. Then there wouldn't be so much speculation as to what is up with our organization. |
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