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Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind. |
View Poll Results: Do you find comment cards helpful? | |||
Yes | 164 | 83.25% | |
No | 20 | 10.15% | |
Uncertain | 13 | 6.60% | |
Voters: 197. You may not vote on this poll |
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07-26-2013, 04:41 PM | #61 | |
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07-26-2013, 04:52 PM | #62 |
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Join Date: 03-14-07
Location: Culpeper, Virginia
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Salty, plain smoke flavor, peppery...and a 5, wow. Lol...to me that is the definition of Brisket!
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07-27-2013, 12:12 AM | #63 |
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Join Date: 05-02-13
Location: Virginia, by way of NE, IA, PA, NC, WI
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I love the comment cards. There is no shortage of judges out there for normal comps so who cares if you make them spend a little more time taking a real interest in what they are doing. If they aren't willing to explain themselves as to why they think or feel that way.... you didn't want them anyways. Then it is clear that the judge thinks the game is about him/her, and not the food. Make it about the food.
I would say for small comps and state qualifiers make them manditory. IF you're winning and moving along further up the ladder, you aren't needing or looking for advice at that big contest. And being one of 400 teams.. a few comments are not what you are looking for. Setting guidelines as to what type of event should get them is a easy way to not complicate dealing with 24 cards per team at large events. Anything comp under.... 100 teams gets them, whatever. Table captian collects and sorts them for each teams at his table right there. They would then take them to a secondary table for other meat comment cards to join. They can run them to that table inbetween each meat catagory... like a bingo sheet LOL, or a filing drawer(which would be easier). All the organizing is done and done quickly. Takes like 5 minutes, so easy. I also don't feel KCBS would need to gather this data either. If you get a explaination from 5 people that are similiar and sixth is way off. You can easily dismiss that one as a fool and leave it at that. Chalk it up to bad luck that you got that person. These only need to be personal opinion notes meant solely for the cooker. If the idea would be to use this as a tool to help identify and "retrain" that judge, I am not interested in that just yet. Fix one problem at a time. Deal with retraining that guy later. Nothing like taking two toxic topics and try to resolve them both at once. Like peace in Isreal and the national budget. Doesn't work. Put your pants on one leg at a time. Get the comment cards out there. Once that is in place, then it is time to analize what assets you have infront of you and how best to manage judges within your set rules. First get what and why they think out there, then if you want to, look further into what they are saying. I as a competitor have no need to know who the person it. Just what they think. If there needs to be more time for the judges....... bump the first turn in up half a hour and then make the turn ins at 45 minute interavals. It would be petty and small if someone couldn't adapt to that. Just stubborn jack***ery. That way the brisket will be turned in only 15mins later than it is already. That also give the judge almost 2 minutes per entry to make comments. That is more than enough time. |
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07-27-2013, 01:20 AM | #64 |
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Join Date: 04-08-10
Location: Elk Creek, KY
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That 6 may be considered "average" but it and even a 7 is the kiss of death when it comes to finishing towards the top.
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07-27-2013, 07:20 AM | #65 |
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Join Date: 11-23-10
Location: Hillsborough, NC (UNC "TarHeel" country!)
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So what you really want is for the judges to tell you why it wasn't excellent? Why it wasn't the best damn entry they judged? You want the judge to justify as to why they didn't think that your entry should have won.
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07-27-2013, 08:02 AM | #66 | |
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Why would you try to twist my comment? Just stating a fact. |
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07-27-2013, 11:28 AM | #67 |
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Join Date: 02-11-10
Location: Northern VA
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Hats off to Candy for posting the poll and asking a simple question.
Second, I voted yes. I did not think it was a big deal for me when judging to fill out a comment card. And I fill out a lot! wallace
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07-27-2013, 12:08 PM | #68 | |
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07-27-2013, 12:13 PM | #69 |
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Join Date: 02-13-05
Location: New Jersey
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keying those comments after the contest is a long process. Then sending the emails. Reps just don't have that time
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07-27-2013, 01:58 PM | #70 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 05-19-13
Location: Athens, Ga
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If the comment tells me how to cook, it is not helpful. If the comment tells me what they liked or disliked about my turn in, it is very helpful.
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07-27-2013, 02:26 PM | #71 | |
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Join Date: 10-12-07
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07-27-2013, 02:34 PM | #72 | |
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Join Date: 12-03-08
Location: Pearl River LA
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If anyone would care to come up with more obstaclea to mandatory comment cards/checklists, I will be happy to continue providing simple easily performed solutions to them. No sarcasm intended here. |
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07-27-2013, 04:28 PM | #73 |
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Join Date: 09-14-10
Location: Rogers, AR
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07-28-2013, 12:17 AM | #74 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 05-19-13
Location: Athens, Ga
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The scoresheet on this page could foster some ideas fo comment cards.
http://www.bbqcritic.com/news.html |
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07-29-2013, 10:32 AM | #75 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 04-14-04
Location: Choctaw, OK
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Here's what beer judges use for a score sheet on every single entry. It can be tedious, and I'm not sayin' there needs to be this kind of depth for a BBQ entry, but check it out. You'll see what I mean.
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/SCP_BeerScoreSheet.pdf
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