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08-27-2010, 09:23 PM | #1 |
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Enough coals?
Started my 18 WSM with a full barrel of unlit K coal and 20 lit K coals. Taking a LONG time to get the temps up. Is 20 lit coals for minion on WSM enough?
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08-27-2010, 09:30 PM | #2 |
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If my charcoal ring is stacked to the top and I have 20 or so lit coals on top, my temps just shoot right up. Even though I use lump, I would think that your temps should ramp quickly. Do you have a lot of cold meat or a water pan full of cold water or something?
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08-27-2010, 09:33 PM | #3 |
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My 18 WSM get hot fast with a load like that. No water pan.
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08-27-2010, 09:37 PM | #4 |
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I use 1/2 to 3/4 of a chimney with mine. Never any problems with temps up quick. Any chance your unlit is damp?
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08-27-2010, 09:45 PM | #5 |
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The waterpan is full with cold water from the hose. Don't think unlit was damp. Stuff used in the chimney was from the same bag and lit right up.
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08-27-2010, 09:49 PM | #6 |
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That's probably your issue. Takes quite a bit of energy to heat up a gallon of cold water. Next time try filling it with the hottest tap water, or you could look into other mods such as the sand mod or clay saucer mod.
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08-27-2010, 10:02 PM | #7 |
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it's gonna take some time with the cold water but it will get there.. keep the vents open wide for now.
When I had my WSM's, I used to have the water pan in lined with foil but no liquids..
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08-27-2010, 10:06 PM | #8 |
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"or you could look into other mods such as the sand mod or clay saucer mod."
+1 on the sand mod. Works great! Holds heat, no evaporation, and difuses the heat too.
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08-27-2010, 10:32 PM | #9 |
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Like others have mentioned, you should start with hot water in the water pan.
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08-27-2010, 10:41 PM | #10 |
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Temps climbing now. Just put butt on. What's this sand mod?
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08-27-2010, 10:44 PM | #11 |
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Full ring of charcoal, no water in water pan, 8 lit briquettes and I can have mine to temp in 35 minutes...
I like to take it up real slow and stead. I can hit 235 dead on without to much trouble. In my opinion, lose the water in the water pan and use a clay planter base, much easier to control temps that way.
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08-27-2010, 10:50 PM | #12 |
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Use hot water or sand in the pan. Sand instead of water povides good "heat sink" action like water but can get up to temp a little quicker. Water takes a long time to change temps. Cold water can take a long time to come up to temp. Water boils at 212 F (at sea level). If you are cooking at 225 F, it will take a long time to get the water up to 212 F.
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08-27-2010, 10:51 PM | #13 |
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Never thought of that, great idea....The water pan can be a PITA to clean, would be nice to eliminate it. So I assume you are of the opinion that the water does not bring anything substantial to the party.
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08-28-2010, 08:30 AM | #14 | |
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08-28-2010, 09:17 AM | #15 |
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The water pan shouldn't be a PITA to clean if you have lined it with foil. Personally I line my pan with foil, then put four balls of crumpled up foil (about the size of a ping pong ball) in, and then 2 layers of foil, and never have to worry about water.
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