Dual Sanctioned Events

G$ · 09-07-2007, 05:58 PM

Anyone ever compete in a contest with concurrent double sanctioning (and turn ins- KCBS & ICBA)? Thoughts, advise?

My first thought is, this is expensive!

CajunSmoker · 09-07-2007, 07:09 PM

and I would think it would be very confusing considering the differences in the rules

MilitantSquatter · 09-07-2007, 07:11 PM

How frequent of an occurence is this ?

Jeff Hughes · 09-07-2007, 07:22 PM

Perkins Oklahoma had a KCBS/IBCA contest for several years. It was very popular with the cooks.

It did not return this year sadly.

Given Oklahoma's geographic location, if we don't have many around here, ya gotta think there aren't too many dual sanctioned comps goin' on...

G$ · 09-07-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilitantSquatter

How frequent of an occurence is this ?

No idea how common they are in general, but there is one scheduled in AZ for November. (We can Q year 'round here..

...) Thom E can chime in with more detail perhaps.

We have relatively few sanctioned events, so we will be participating. I would just as soon have separate ones, but I can see the benefits of a double sanctioned event. Turn in rules for each will be in effect, so in theory you MIGHT be doing totally different chicken and rib styles.

In any case, certainly an interesting twist.

Merl · 09-08-2007, 11:52 AM

Carol and I have had the pleasure to put on the Perkins Meat in the Middle contest with the Shivers. This was a very successful event. The cooks seemed to love the concept. One entry fee and double the chances to win. Yes their are some differences. Garnish and no Garnish. 6 chicken pieces and a half chicken. Bun in reality they are not that difficult.

At the Chandler Az contest, we are working with the turn in times so that you will be only working with one type of entry during a period. This should help with some conflict we discovered in Perkins. Should you have any comments or questions contact us.

We are extremely excited to be a participant in this great contest in Arizona.
Yours in Q
Merl

Butcher BBQ · 09-08-2007, 09:31 PM

We cooked this contest last year and it was fun, along with alot of concetrated thought on when to put in ribs and chix. Go and enjoy you will have fun.

G$ · 09-09-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merl

Carol and I have had the pleasure to put on the Perkins Meat in the Middle contest with the Shivers. This was a very successful event. The cooks seemed to love the concept. One entry fee and double the chances to win. Yes their are some differences. Garnish and no Garnish. 6 chicken pieces and a half chicken. Bun in reality they are not that difficult.

At the Chandler Az contest, we are working with the turn in times so that you will be only working with one type of entry during a period. This should help with some conflict we discovered in Perkins. Should you have any comments or questions contact us.

We are extremely excited to be a participant in this great contest in Arizona.
Yours in Q
Merl

I noticed you were repping Merl. See ya there! I really am looking forward to the event and the location SHOULD be great.

Also, re: "One entry fee and double the chances to win."

This is what gets me. the entry fee is like $350 (plus 35 for electric). Basically twice a typical fee. I have no problem with it, because as you said, I also get 2 chances to win, but still, let's npot pretend this is a 'twoferone'!

Bentley · 09-09-2007, 05:29 PM

I will be really curious to see the results of this event. 2 different types of rules. I wonder if the judges will be the same for both events? Will be curious if the winners gravitate more toward the KCBS or IBCA mold?

So Merl, do you just rep the KCBS side?

Jeff Hughes · 09-09-2007, 06:54 PM

ICBA rule are simple enough that no rep is required. There is a head judge though.

ThomEmery · 09-09-2007, 07:38 PM

It will be fun
After the Chicken it is two boxs watch the sause :)
The idea here is by doing two in one day
teams that would pass on a AZ event will be there.

ThomEmery · 09-09-2007, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Hughes

ICBA rule are simple enough that no rep is required. There is a head judge though.

:) Jeff a Head Judge does everything a rep does except examine Lettuce :)

ThomEmery · 09-09-2007, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G$

I noticed you were repping Merl. See ya there! I really am looking forward to the event and the location SHOULD be great.

Also, re: "One entry fee and double the chances to win."

This is what gets me. the entry fee is like $350 (plus 35 for electric). Basically twice a typical fee. I have no problem with it, because as you said, I also get 2 chances to win, but still, let's npot pretend this is a 'twoferone'!

G It is in every other way a two fer. When we go out to a contest it is a $1200 deal most times Yes there is a extra cost in the higher than usuall entry fee but what is a $150 more when I am not spending the other $1000?
:) Besides I get to see Aaron and Mike

G$ · 09-10-2007, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomEmery

G It is in every other way a two fer. When we go out to a contest it is a $1200 deal most times Yes there is a extra cost in the higher than usuall entry fee but what is a $150 more when I am not spending the other $1000?
:) Besides I get to see Aaron and Mike

I hear yah. But shouldn't you get compensated to work with Aaron????

09-07-2007, 05:58 PM	#1
G$ is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 01-01-05 Location: Southern Arizona	Dual Sanctioned Events Anyone ever compete in a contest with concurrent double sanctioning (and turn ins- KCBS & ICBA)? Thoughts, advise? My first thought is, this is expensive!

09-07-2007, 07:09 PM	#2
CajunSmoker is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 02-06-07 Location: Rolling down the river between St Louis and New Orleans	and I would think it would be very confusing considering the differences in the rules __________________ Rodger How y'all are? I'm glad you got to see me I guarontee Justin Wilson 4/24/1914 - 09/05/2001 CAJUN QUE KREWE Proud ARKLAFO KCBS member & CBJ#24398 Twin Ugly Drum Smokers Brinkman Smoke King Deluxe Brinkman Gourmet ECB with super chicken mods Weber OTS kettle

09-07-2007, 07:11 PM	#3
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09-07-2007, 07:22 PM	#4
Jeff Hughes is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 02-03-06 Location: tulsa oklahoma	Perkins Oklahoma had a KCBS/IBCA contest for several years. It was very popular with the cooks. It did not return this year sadly. Given Oklahoma's geographic location, if we don't have many around here, ya gotta think there aren't too many dual sanctioned comps goin' on... __________________ Klose 72" Mobile Medium BGE HastyBake Legacy 22" Weber Kettle(10 bucks@garage sale)

09-09-2007, 05:29 PM	#9
Bentley Babbling Farker Join Date: 03-14-07 Location: Culpeper, Virginia	I will be really curious to see the results of this event. 2 different types of rules. I wonder if the judges will be the same for both events? Will be curious if the winners gravitate more toward the KCBS or IBCA mold? So Merl, do you just rep the KCBS side? __________________ Certified Master Judge #5382 What is best in life? "To crush your BBQ opponents, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

09-08-2007, 11:52 AM	#6
Merl Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 08-13-06 Location: Tulsa, Ok	Carol and I have had the pleasure to put on the Perkins Meat in the Middle contest with the Shivers. This was a very successful event. The cooks seemed to love the concept. One entry fee and double the chances to win. Yes their are some differences. Garnish and no Garnish. 6 chicken pieces and a half chicken. Bun in reality they are not that difficult. At the Chandler Az contest, we are working with the turn in times so that you will be only working with one type of entry during a period. This should help with some conflict we discovered in Perkins. Should you have any comments or questions contact us. We are extremely excited to be a participant in this great contest in Arizona. Yours in Q Merl

09-08-2007, 09:31 PM	#7
Butcher BBQ is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-03-07 Location: Chandler,OK	We cooked this contest last year and it was fun, along with alot of concetrated thought on when to put in ribs and chix. Go and enjoy you will have fun.

09-09-2007, 06:54 PM	#10
Jeff Hughes is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 02-03-06 Location: tulsa oklahoma	ICBA rule are simple enough that no rep is required. There is a head judge though. __________________ Klose 72" Mobile Medium BGE HastyBake Legacy 22" Weber Kettle(10 bucks@garage sale)

09-09-2007, 07:38 PM	#11
ThomEmery Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-20-05 Location: Indio Ca.	It will be fun After the Chicken it is two boxs watch the sause :) The idea here is by doing two in one day teams that would pass on a AZ event will be there. __________________ Catering, Contests, and Community Service Team What Wood Jesus Que? Www.bbqthom.com

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