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04-21-2010, 10:32 AM | #1 |
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The sad truth about honing steels!
I have been discussing honing steels with a mentor of mine, Dave Martell (www.japaneseknifesharpening.com). He's helping me understand how to create a proper edge for knives used for BBQ - and how to maintain those edges. He's really generous with his time and advice. In an email today he indicated that the typical steels that come with knife sets actually do damage to knives. He recommends using a ceramic "steel." He also suggests that we not use the "acrobatics" we often associate with chefs and their steels - but use a slower "slide" concentrating on the edge. I wrote up an article about this and you can find it here with some links if you are interested in more info:
http://slowfoodrebellion.blogspot.com Do any of you use ceramic "steels"? Thoughts?
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04-21-2010, 10:46 AM | #2 |
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This could turn into one heck of a thread. Everyone has a different opinion on what to do. but I agree with your friend, what you see on TV is not the way to go.
Someone once told me to hold the steel verticel, resting on the counter, handel at the top for those of us that don't want cut our hand off. Then run the knife down on each side. This will help keep the proper angle.
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04-21-2010, 10:49 AM | #3 |
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Great read monty3777
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04-21-2010, 10:55 AM | #4 |
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I agree, CJ. I predict this post will have lots of information in it by the time it's said and done.
[Mod note: if you're a steel or ceramic hater, please don't let it show here!] Monty, your blog post makes a lot of sense, but I'd be leery of using a ceramic hone every time I put a quick edge on a good blade. I know they remove some metal during use, and I'd like to think a steel does more realignment than removal, but maybe I'm kidding myself.
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04-21-2010, 10:57 AM | #5 |
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I like the diamond encrusted hone from chef's choice..works within a few strokes.
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04-21-2010, 11:04 AM | #6 | |
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04-21-2010, 11:05 AM | #7 |
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Good thread. Roadmapped it.
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04-21-2010, 11:16 AM | #8 |
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I have an EdgePro Apex and follow the advice given by Ben Dale in the instructional video. This is mainly for the Wusthof Classic chef's knife that I use every day:
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04-21-2010, 11:18 AM | #9 |
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Great post! I'll be checking this one a lot. I always struggle with my knives, so this'll be good to know.
Thanks.
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04-21-2010, 11:29 AM | #10 |
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Thanks for posting this. I've been preaching this for sometime and often get drowned out by some guy whos dad was a butcher for 100 years. Here's to sharp cutlery!!
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Quote:
http://www.edgeproinc.com/Apex-Model...Pro-System-c3/
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04-21-2010, 11:30 AM | #12 | |
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04-21-2010, 11:35 AM | #13 |
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My wife bought me the spyderco system and it works really well.
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04-21-2010, 11:35 AM | #14 |
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Excellent thread. Intelligent blog. Thanks.
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