Score my Pork Box Please

Ribeye Republic · 07-29-2015, 09:31 AM

Looking for a little advice. Thanks in advance.

Right on Q · 07-29-2015, 09:35 AM

My first thought when i looked at this is that it needs more shine. Either from sauce or a spritz of water or AJ.

I'd give it a 7 or 8. (I'm not a CBJ, just a cook)

Good entry. Better than some i started out with!

bbq.tom · 07-29-2015, 09:47 AM

First glance I'd give it an 8, as it appears a bit dry. Probably looks better in person, but the photo can be deceptive. Also, the coloration is inconsistent - parts look like char, while other parts are definitely not.

Interesting "loaf". Definitely larger than the typical MM. I'm assuming that there will be a bunch of fat in the slices, but that isn't taken into account in my "Appearance" score.

Skip · 07-29-2015, 09:47 AM

Ok I would give a 6 or 7. Was your slicing portion tough that you needed to slice so thin. Immediately that would be a concern of mine. The coloring isn't as appetizing as it could be and that will hurt you as well. The coloring in the meat and on the meat is off to me. It looks pale and a bit washed out like there was no time to "polish" it up after foiling. Give it a spritz with something from spring water to spray of vegetable oil something to give it a shine.

Now all this could be wrong due to poor coloring from the photo.

DR · 07-29-2015, 11:20 AM

I'm going 8 maybe 7 but more toward 8. It look appealing to me. I think a few more chunks on the side would make it look fuller and, as mentioned above, a bit more shine.

thirdeye · 07-29-2015, 12:28 PM

The pieces at the rear of the box are attractive, but look a tick dry. The color on the sliced muscle is uneven, and the arrangement of those slices is not attractive to me. I would score this a 6/7, and fill out a comment card.

If those forward slices were fanned out to show off the cross section, I think your appearance score would improve.

tduffy · 07-29-2015, 01:31 PM

I would give this a 6. I don't like the arrangement of the slices or whatever you call the other pieces. sliced chunks?

ModelMaker · 07-29-2015, 04:00 PM

Man you cook types are hard on a guy. I'm in for a solid 8! I'm hopin for all kinds of flavor on that crusty slice. More chunks and some moisture and I'll go 9.
Ed

Skip · 07-29-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelMaker

Man you cook types are hard on a guy. I'm in for a solid 8! I'm hopin for all kinds of flavor on that crusty slice. More chunks and some moisture and I'll go 9.
Ed

This is the man to listen to. He is right your fellow cooks are going to critique it like its their own cook and many are never fully satisfied with their cooks. So we will always be a point or two low. As you see Ed felt it an 8 while the low score from cooks was a 6.

DR · 07-29-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ModelMaker

Man you cook types are hard on a guy. I'm in for a solid 8! I'm hopin for all kinds of flavor on that crusty slice. More chunks and some moisture and I'll go 9.
Ed

Totally agree.

Smoke'n Ice · 07-29-2015, 09:17 PM

6 leaning to 5. Thin slices indicate that it will be a good chew. There are a few pieces?? on top but what are they? There is no pulled in the box so it was a tad underdone. I eat with my eyes first and that is not that appealing to my eye.

My only thought go back to my roots in NC and it was normally said if you can slice it, it ain't done.

J&B'sBBQ · 07-29-2015, 09:28 PM

That loaf of pork is HUGE!!! I'm with Tom, I can't assess tenderness because it is just a picture, but I would fear there would be a tad too much fat in that heap of meat because it is certainly not just the MM that is sliced; you have the MM and other surrounding muscles that are all connected via fat and other stuff...could hit you on tenderness.

As for the appearance, my eye is drawn to the discoloration on the MM, and the bland appearance of the chunks. I would try to mask some of that some. I'm not a fan of the layout, but that is my personal opinion. I would give this a 7.

Schooly D · 07-30-2015, 07:16 AM

Why do you need to put so much meat in that box? The loaf looks like a full roast - appearance score from me would come from getting to peek what the middle of the slice looks like as well as the outside. With 12 slices plus the slices in the back (which are a little uneven) that's too much food, so much that it becomes unappetizing.

I'd score that box likely a 6/7.

DR · 07-30-2015, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke'n Ice

6 leaning to 5. Thin slices indicate that it will be a good chew. There are a few pieces?? on top but what are they? There is no pulled in the box so it was a tad underdone. I eat with my eyes first and that is not that appealing to my eye.

My only thought go back to my roots in NC and it was normally said if you can slice it, it ain't done.

This is one thing that is wrong with judges. you can't judge appearance on YOUR ASSUMPTIONS. You can't say that since there is no pulled in the box so its a tad bit underdone. Thats complete BS!! You are only judging on visual appearance and not ASSUMPTIONS. If you can slice it, it ain't done???? Seriously??? You can't judge something that is NOT in the box or what you assume the taste or tenderness will may or may not be. The appearance scores are for APPEARANCE only and not assumptions or expectations.

Smoke'n Ice · 07-30-2015, 07:37 AM

I personally have never seen an intact external muscle of a pork butt that large. Based on the box size (probably the standard 8 X

that chunk of pork is 4 inches by 7 inches in size and sliced very thin. This is not an appealing presentation because of experience in cooking and judging. I graded it down, not because of what was not in there, but what was in there, which is not appealing to me.

Heck, being from Texas, you should know why they require the thickness of brisket slices to be the size of a number 2 pencil.

07-29-2015, 09:35 AM	#2
Right on Q is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 10-21-14 Location: Olive Branch, MS	My first thought when i looked at this is that it needs more shine. Either from sauce or a spritz of water or AJ. I'd give it a 7 or 8. (I'm not a CBJ, just a cook) Good entry. Better than some i started out with! __________________ Meatcraft BBQ - Backyard Jambo Pit, 18 WSM, 22 WSM, 2 X Auber controllers

07-29-2015, 09:47 AM	#3
bbq.tom is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-23-10 Location: Hillsborough, NC (UNC "TarHeel" country!)	First glance I'd give it an 8, as it appears a bit dry. Probably looks better in person, but the photo can be deceptive. Also, the coloration is inconsistent - parts look like char, while other parts are definitely not. Interesting "loaf". Definitely larger than the typical MM. I'm assuming that there will be a bunch of fat in the slices, but that isn't taken into account in my "Appearance" score. __________________ [COLOR=black][B]TOM[/B][/COLOR] [SIZE=1][COLOR=sienna]Emergency REP - KCBS[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=sienna]CMJ - KCBS (100+ club) & Carolina BBQ League (NCBBQA)[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#a0522d]CBJ - MBN, NCBS, NCPC, SBN[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#a0522d]CTC - KCBS[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#a0522d]4 Lil' Pigs Competition BBQ Team[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][COLOR=#a0522d]270-Sumo, LANG, BDS, & Holland Epic[/COLOR][/SIZE]

07-29-2015, 09:47 AM	#4
Skip is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 07-24-07 Location: Wantagh, NY	Ok I would give a 6 or 7. Was your slicing portion tough that you needed to slice so thin. Immediately that would be a concern of mine. The coloring isn't as appetizing as it could be and that will hurt you as well. The coloring in the meat and on the meat is off to me. It looks pale and a bit washed out like there was no time to "polish" it up after foiling. Give it a spritz with something from spring water to spray of vegetable oil something to give it a shine. Now all this could be wrong due to poor coloring from the photo. __________________ Yeah it looks good...but how does it smell? "you're eating tree RAT, tree RAT, you're eating RAT!" -- landarc

07-29-2015, 11:20 AM	#5
DR Take a breath! Join Date: 06-06-14 Location: Tomball, Texas	I'm going 8 maybe 7 but more toward 8. It look appealing to me. I think a few more chunks on the side would make it look fuller and, as mentioned above, a bit more shine. __________________ HELL YEAH BBQ, COMPETITION TEAM….KCBS Certified Judge….Jambo Enclosed

07-29-2015, 12:28 PM	#6
thirdeye somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-14-06 Location: At home on the range in Wyoming	The pieces at the rear of the box are attractive, but look a tick dry. The color on the sliced muscle is uneven, and the arrangement of those slices is not attractive to me. I would score this a 6/7, and fill out a comment card. If those forward slices were fanned out to show off the cross section, I think your appearance score would improve. __________________ ~thirdeye~ I Play With Fire and Smoke *Barbecuist ~ Charcuterist ~ KCBS Master Judge & CTC* Big Green Eggs, Big Drum Smokers, Big Chiefs, Weber Smokey Joe "Custom Tall Boy" Oil Patch Horizontal, SnS Deluxe Kettle Visit my Cookin' Site by clicking HERE Barbecue is not rocket surgery “The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it's hard to verify their authenticity” ~ Abraham Lincoln

07-29-2015, 01:31 PM	#7
tduffy is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-05-11 Location: Pierre, SD	I would give this a 6. I don't like the arrangement of the slices or whatever you call the other pieces. sliced chunks? __________________ Last Call Heroes BBQ - Outlaw Smokers - Gateway Drums

07-29-2015, 04:00 PM	#8
ModelMaker Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 04-21-06 Location: Lake Ponderosa-Montezuma, IA	Man you cook types are hard on a guy. I'm in for a solid 8! I'm hopin for all kinds of flavor on that crusty slice. More chunks and some moisture and I'll go 9. Ed __________________ Designer of a custom drum smoker Customized Aussie gas passer Turkey fryer Extremely seasoned hand hammered Wok Pit Boss-HART BURN Competition BBQ Team KCBS certified judge And Your not the boss of me either!!

07-29-2015, 09:17 PM	#11
Smoke'n Ice is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-08-09 Location: Plano, TX	6 leaning to 5. Thin slices indicate that it will be a good chew. There are a few pieces?? on top but what are they? There is no pulled in the box so it was a tad underdone. I eat with my eyes first and that is not that appealing to my eye. My only thought go back to my roots in NC and it was normally said if you can slice it, it ain't done.

07-29-2015, 09:28 PM	#12
J&B'sBBQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-19-13 Location: Suwanee, GA	That loaf of pork is HUGE!!! I'm with Tom, I can't assess tenderness because it is just a picture, but I would fear there would be a tad too much fat in that heap of meat because it is certainly not just the MM that is sliced; you have the MM and other surrounding muscles that are all connected via fat and other stuff...could hit you on tenderness. As for the appearance, my eye is drawn to the discoloration on the MM, and the bland appearance of the chunks. I would try to mask some of that some. I'm not a fan of the layout, but that is my personal opinion. I would give this a 7. __________________ [FONT="Arial Black"][COLOR="red"][SIZE="3"]Beth Mewborn[/SIZE][/COLOR] [SIZE="2"][URL="www.facebook.com/jandbsbbq"] Follow Us On Facebook![/URL] [COLOR="red"][SIZE="3"]2016 Georgia BBQ Champions[/SIZE][/COLOR] [URL="http://www.southernqsmokers.com"]Southern Q Limo Jr. & 125 Water Cooker[/URL] Proudly Supported By: [URL="http://www.southernqsmokers.com"]Southern Q Smokers & Trailers[/URL] [URL="http://www.swampboys.com/wordpress/"]Swamp Boys BBQ Sauces and Rubs[/URL] [URL="https://carolinacookwood.com"]Carolina Cookwood[/URL][/FONT][/SIZE]

07-30-2015, 07:16 AM	#13
Schooly D Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 08-09-14 Location: Phoenix, AZ	Why do you need to put so much meat in that box? The loaf looks like a full roast - appearance score from me would come from getting to peek what the middle of the slice looks like as well as the outside. With 12 slices plus the slices in the back (which are a little uneven) that's too much food, so much that it becomes unappetizing. I'd score that box likely a 6/7.

07-30-2015, 07:37 AM	#15
Smoke'n Ice is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-08-09 Location: Plano, TX	I personally have never seen an intact external muscle of a pork butt that large. Based on the box size (probably the standard 8 X that chunk of pork is 4 inches by 7 inches in size and sliced very thin. This is not an appealing presentation because of experience in cooking and judging. I graded it down, not because of what was not in there, but what was in there, which is not appealing to me. Heck, being from Texas, you should know why they require the thickness of brisket slices to be the size of a number 2 pencil.