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10-06-2011, 09:39 AM | #1 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-06-10
Location: Lebanon, Tennessee
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Old Country 20" "Pecos.." offset at Academy?
Any of you folks got any experience or opinions yet on these $400 20" offsets at Academy Sports?
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/st...smoker&Ntk=All
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10-06-2011, 10:01 AM | #2 |
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Join Date: 04-16-09
Location: Lake Charles La
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My wife bought me one 2 years ago for my b/d. I like the quality and for the price it's hard to get a better deal.The only mod i have made was to make a charcoal basket.
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10-06-2011, 10:27 AM | #3 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 09-27-11
Location: Middletown, NJ
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I'm not familiar with that particular model, but my first smoker was an offset, and I hated it. Hindsight being what it is I would have been much better off with a WSM.
I had a hard time regulating the heat in my offset, and it seemed that no matter what fuel I used (briquettes, lump or firewood) I always had to babysit it. The grates closest to the firebox always cooked hotter and it was a flat out mess to clean afterwards. These things plus it's big and heavy and was a pain to move around (not enough room on my patio). I'm 100 times happier with my new WSM. |
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10-06-2011, 10:37 AM | #4 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 04-20-09
Location: Mobile, AL
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I like them. I bought a OK Joe from Academy 5+ years ago, before they began carring the Old Country models. If I recall the Old Country already has a small heat shield/diverter near the fire box. I had to add one to my OK Joe. The stack comes to grate level !! I had to extend my OK Joe stack down to the grate.
In other words, the Old Country comes equipped with the mods you'd need to make to the OK Joe model. I've never used an Old Country, but it looks like it's a great first smoker. Now onto to the 'offset dilemma'. Offsets are very TRADITIONAL smokers. While each smoker is different, offsets generally require feeding more often than the UDS/WSW crowd likes. So it's good for say ribs (4-5 hour cook), but they're lousy for butts and briskets on long 10+ hour cooks. I have both. my OK Joe for ribs and a UDS style for Butts and brisket. Mark |
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10-06-2011, 10:53 AM | #5 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-13-11
Location: Mamaroneck, NY
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i stopped at academy and took a peak at the old countrys. this was when i was interesting in gettin a custom old country. for 400 they really are well built. in that price range while i was shopping i didnt see any good comparitable pits.
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10-06-2011, 01:55 PM | #6 | |
is One Chatty Farker
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10-06-2011, 02:12 PM | #7 | |
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I'll stick to cooking my low-n-slow chicken leg quarters on my wsm. I can get twenty pounds on using an extra rack and it's quite remarkable how even the cook goes. Ribs will be a lot more fun on a 20" offset, though; that's for sure.
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10-06-2011, 03:16 PM | #8 |
Take a breath!
Join Date: 05-26-09
Location: Fulshear, Texas
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The Pecos isn't a bad deal at $400, but the Brazos model they had for $999 was a much more substantial smoker. I was going to buy myself one for my birthday, but my local store was out. The manager said they would call me when they got some more in, but I never heard back from him. Meanwhile, the Brazos has disappeared from both the Academy and Old Country web sites. I emailed the manufacturer and asked what the deal was, but got no reply.
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10-06-2011, 03:56 PM | #9 | |
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I noticed though that most of them aren't on Academy's website, but I'm curious about the new one that's gonna be for $599. I don't think there's any info on the website yet, other than than that it has TWO smoking chamber lids and is #400 pounds, #50 heavier than the Pecos. The site said that info and a pic would be "coming soon." Know how long the Pecos smoking chamber is?
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10-06-2011, 04:21 PM | #10 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-13-11
Location: Mamaroneck, NY
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Honestly. Once u get up to 599 u might as well go to old countrys site and get one of those. They r more heavy duty than the ones at academy. They r much better made. They do jump up but if u don't need shipping u can get one for bout 800-1000. Check out the "all American" on their site. Made from 3/16 steel.
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10-07-2011, 05:44 AM | #11 | |
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Join Date: 05-05-09
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
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10-07-2011, 08:48 AM | #12 | |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 01-06-10
Location: Lebanon, Tennessee
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As to your last couple of comments, I can really appreciate your perspective, and that's why I'm going back to stickburning. However, I won't get rid of my wsm. I've read here and elsewhere of guys really happy with getting good stickburning smoke on butts/briskets for a while and then "setting and forgetting" on the wsm for the rest of the day/night. Chicken on the wsm and ribs off the offset sounds like a great bbq plan, too. Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.
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