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08-15-2012, 04:28 PM | #9856 | |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 08-18-08
Location: Corte Madera, CA
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Fattie...usually the first item to be cooked on a drum. Many, many variations...thousands posted here. It's a chub of sausage smoke cooked. It can be plain or have any number/kind of ingredients stuffed inside and some wrap in bacon.
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08-15-2012, 06:22 PM | #9857 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 03-30-12
Location: Altoona Ia.
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Well I thought id post mine here now.
My ash pan is a brinkman smoker lid modified. Free off curb trash day:D
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08-16-2012, 02:56 AM | #9858 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 08-13-12
Location: Essex, UK
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Shopping basket
Has anyone used a shopping basket for a firebox? In the UK, these are pretty easy to 'acquire' and they seem to be up to the job.
Please forgive me, I have read through 169 pages of this thread so far and plan to read the whole lot. However, I haven't seen anyone use one of these. Maybe it's because in the US you don't have these? Anyway, great forum! Lots of useful tips! |
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08-16-2012, 06:00 AM | #9859 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 04-19-12
Location: Batavia, IL
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In the US, all the shopping baskets I've ever seen are plastic. Obviously limiting their usefulness in a UDS.
My drum burns roughly a pound of charcoal an hour when smoking. I think you could put some 2-3" bolts through the bottom of that basket to use as legs and capture a pizza pan below it to catch ash. If you use a heat diffuser, the rectangular shape of the basket wouldn't create hot spots in the smoker. But before you go too far, make sure it will easily slide into your drum, with the bolts in it to hold the cooking grates. This thing will be getting hot in a hurry and wouldn't want to struggle to get it in. My basket as an example is 17" in diameter and 8" high. I used 3.5" bolts and drilled holes through a pizza pan to pass the bolts through. After this shot was taken, I've had to slide little pieces of copper pipe onto a couple of the bolts to push the pizza pan down and ensure the gap between the pan and the bottom of the basket grate.
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08-16-2012, 06:25 AM | #9860 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 08-13-12
Location: Essex, UK
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Thanks for the advice. Most baskets in the UK are metal. Tesco have a 'free' supply! I think I'm going to give it a go. I have a pizza pan for an ash tray. The feet setup was exactly what I was going to go for.
I was hoping that the rectangular shape wouldn't have much of an effect, considering the food will be 24" away from the base of the fire. Anyone else have an opinion on this point? |
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08-16-2012, 06:58 AM | #9861 | |||
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 11-26-10
Location: Somewhere, CT
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There have been plenty of folks on this forum that used square fire baskets. I'm sure it'll be fine.
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Because of the great air control, you can put a big pile of coals and only a handful of already lit coals on top, and then allow the coals to slowly start burning the unlit coals for the rest of the cook. Some times high winds or other conditions may cause it to burn faster than expected. But as I mentioned, I deal with taking everything out and adding more if necessary. That is why, by the way, I actually make "feet" on my grill grates to essentially turn them all into little tables. They stack on top of each other in the smoker, and when removing they can just sit on the ground without having the food touch the ground. This makes it very quick and easy to lift and re-arrange the food in and out of the smoker. Quote:
The water pan would go between the heat source and the food. The purpose is to evaporate it and add moisture to the food. In a vertical style smoker that is small (like the Weber Smokey models) it's more necessary. The typical 55 gallon UDS drum doesn't need it for moisture reasons. If you smoke in a humid climate you probably won't need it. I never use it. However, I do often (not always) use something to diffuse some of that direct heat. Though using something that will allow the meat juices and fat to drip into the fire are key when using a UDS. That's another special bonus where the drippings add moisture and aroma to the food. |
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08-16-2012, 09:08 AM | #9862 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 08-06-12
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Thanks a million for the reply coewar. Great stuff.
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08-16-2012, 09:17 AM | #9863 |
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Join Date: 06-30-12
Location: MOntpelier,OH
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The water pan IMHO is a heat sink, but some people use sand in them instead of water. Just from first hand impressions I am thinking the diffuser or moderator in a UDS may be worthy of more thought when you use a temperature controller like the auber...you have more quick little blasts of heat going on and maybe more radiant heat because of that ?
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08-16-2012, 09:44 AM | #9864 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 06-06-12
Location: Mt. Sterling KY
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Charcoal Basket
Here is a pic of my basket setup. It is 10"x15" expanded. The grill grate is 3" from the bottom making my actual basket size 7"x15". I have a cheap Wal Mart pizza pan welded to the bottom of the expanded and it is elevated from the bottom of the drum by approx 1.5" byt the 3 bolts.
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08-16-2012, 10:03 AM | #9865 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 05-27-12
Location: metairie
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Coach, what is cutout section for in the expanded metal?
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08-16-2012, 10:05 AM | #9866 | |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 04-16-09
Location: Lake Charles La
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08-16-2012, 11:49 AM | #9867 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 06-06-12
Location: Mt. Sterling KY
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Cut out
I just did that to help get the ash and scraps out of the basket/pan easier. I am using the expanded as the legs for the basket to the pan and i just thought it might make it tougher to clean if it was completely enclosed. No other reason than that lol.
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08-16-2012, 01:59 PM | #9868 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 08-04-12
Location: Wacko, Texas
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So as I understand it, you are creating an air gap under the ash tray thus decreasing the distance between the coal basket and ash tray if you are trying to maintain the 23 to 24 in distance to the grill (which should be 7 to 8 in below the lip) . Are you also raising the grill? I would think that when the ashes build up in the tray that would be sufficient insulation. |
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08-16-2012, 02:34 PM | #9869 |
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Join Date: 03-30-12
Location: Altoona Ia.
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I have 2 grates. Both work & that 24 is from bottom of basket (char) plus you have to alow space for meat on second . Think mine is down 9in from top of barrel maybe more like 10.
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08-16-2012, 05:03 PM | #9870 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 08-04-12
Location: Wacko, Texas
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Little by little my UDS is coming together (pics will follow ). Have the intake holes drilled and 3/4 pipe nipples inserted. Charcoal basket is built. Used #9 X 3/4 EM and even for the bottom...This is a no weld build so the basket bottom was attached with SS hose clamps and SS zip ties. Feet for basket are 3 1/2 in 7/16th bolts (not SS) but i hit them with my rosebud... so much for the coating. 18" EC table top grill for ash pan.
Just chugging along like I knew what I was doing. Later Jim |
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