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05-14-2010, 10:49 AM | #76 |
On the road to being a farker
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This post contains my own personal views, and does not represent any organization whatsoever.
Here are some things to think about: 1) The Board members of any organization should not be arguing/fighting in public. It is unprofessional and has a negative impact on the entire Board. If there are arguments to be had, have them in private. After you have the argument: get over it, act like adults, and keep in mind that you are all there to serve the organization/membership. 2) Everyone should understand that any organization that grows from a being very small to very large is going to experience some growing pains. For this reason, I try to cut people some slack and I realize that mistakes are going to be made. But when I see people being fired without cause and people completely abandoning an organization (whether forced out or not), it makes me wonder what the heck is going on. And multiple times in the recent past? It also makes me wonder if there are certain personalities on the board that are just impossible to get along with and/or there are personal agendas in the mix. 3) I agree with G$. You can be part of other organizations that may be a better fit with your own personal views on what a barbecue organization should be...how it should be run, what the real objectives are, etc. The wheel doesn't need to be totally reinvented. I voted for change in every election since becoming a member. Nothing has changed, as far as I can tell. How long should I keep voting...and keep waiting? As long as people keep voting for the familiar names they see on the ballots, nothing will change. I know first-hand about the frustration people are experiencing. Jared
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05-14-2010, 11:50 AM | #77 |
is One Chatty Farker
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How many of you have emailed the entire board on an issue? I have done it three times and all three and all three I have gotten a favorable outcome. I not saying this works every time but when someone gets a lot of respectful and intelligent emails from the members I would tend to think they will listen. They my not agree but at least they know there is a concern. In the long run it may make no deference but at least you can say you tried to do something about it.
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05-14-2010, 12:39 PM | #78 |
Got Wood.
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Very Sad....
Very sad to hear about Linda's decision to resign... but I am sure she had good reasons for her decision. It is also sad to hear that both she and Jerry will no longer be Reps.
I still have fond memories of my KCBS CBJ class that they taught and the laughs that we had. I have enjoyed working with them at comps and wish them all the best going forward. Now I MUST make a road trip to Pig Daddy's!
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05-14-2010, 12:42 PM | #79 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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05-14-2010, 01:03 PM | #80 | |
Babbling Farker
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05-14-2010, 01:26 PM | #81 |
is One Chatty Farker
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05-14-2010, 01:35 PM | #82 |
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I nominate Matt for the next BOD seat.
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05-14-2010, 01:37 PM | #83 | |
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05-14-2010, 01:41 PM | #84 |
On the road to being a farker
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I think an organization can be as little or as much as you want it to be. And a member can also choose to be heavily involved in it or not involved at all. Bad decisions, mistakes, and BS in general on the part of the organization tends to get people more involved and want change. Others don't care and have no desire to get involved in something they feel doesn't really affect them. I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong...just a matter of personal choice.
Jared
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05-14-2010, 01:49 PM | #85 |
Babbling Farker
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Not sure I understand what the KCBS has to do with organizers getting sponsors for payouts and collecting money for entry fees to put in the prize pool? If you are sayng that people enter contests because they are sanctioned, it seems to me that eveyone hates the KCBS so you won't see people entering anyway. KCBS wasn't the first astronaut on the moon, they have a base organization that runs BBQ comps, no harder then a local little league running a rec baseball program. There are plenty of brains out there that can take the idea and run with it.
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05-14-2010, 02:05 PM | #86 |
is one Smokin' Farker
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good point, but look at maba they have been trying for several years to grow and sanction more but without the support of the members it is not happening like thay want
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05-14-2010, 02:32 PM | #87 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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05-14-2010, 04:25 PM | #88 |
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Bingo - it's some protection for the cooks. Look at how few contests have had a problem with payouts since 2004 when the BOD voted in soem teeth to sanctioning.
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05-14-2010, 04:25 PM | #89 | |
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05-14-2010, 05:21 PM | #90 | |
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If you are not happy with certain aspects of the KCBS, how long will you attempt to enact change to no avail before you step away? I think that the larger question is, why do we need a sanctioning body? They lend credibility to new events, but if an organizer has run the same event well for 4 or 5 years I would believe that the competitors and judges would have respect that track record regardless of sanctioning (or lack thereof). You don't need any sanctioning body to have an event be qualified for the invitationals. You can create a spreadsheet for scoring. You can make judges slips at Kinko's. Eric
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