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06-22-2008, 10:22 AM | #1 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-02-07
Location: Cozad, Nebraska
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Our Local Comp: Going KCBS??
Well, it seems we are to have a meeting among the regular contestants at the Oconto VFD, Blowin' the Doors Off BBQ event. There are a few contestants that have brought up the idea of getting larger, and having a bit more incentive for the contestants. At the cookers meeting the day of the event on June 7th, one of the fellow cookers said he would like to see this become a qualifier for the Royal.
Huh? This dude hasn't even been to a KCBS event, much less been to the Royal. (Just to be sure, I asked him.) This cat has caused such a stir about it, the organizers are getting us cookers there toget some thoughts and issues on it. I have had several of the other cookers call me and ask all sorts of questions about the KCBS. I try to tell them whatI know, and direct them to the web. It seems I have mixed emotions about this. I like this contest the way it is because of the current atmosphere. I know all of the cookers. We cook so the VFD can get people in the gates to eat and drink. VFD takes the money to buy fire equipment. If I win, I get a chintzy trophy, and get to rub my neighbors nose in it. Right now its a lot of work ,but fun. However, how nice would it be to have 2 KCBS events within an hour of me?? Bigger experience, bigger prize pool, and a chance to meet more great people that cook. BUT, are these new people going to be willing to cook for the masses in order to get the coveted GC? Is the money intended for the VFD going to be dumped into some teams pocket that has never even heard of our event before? I'm leaning towards No KCBS Sanctioning. What are your thoughts??
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06-22-2008, 10:51 AM | #2 | |
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If the contest is well organized, judging is considered fair and the teams and organizers are happy and ample funds are being raised, then it does not seem like there is tremedous upside to change. KCBS provides some standardization and consistency, but if you have that already, it will just cost money to put a name on what you have. The money raised really comes from the public who comes out to the event and spends money and that is more likely determined by the population in the area and overall interest in the event. If the goal is to get more teams, potential bigger prize pool and qualifier status then KCBS is the way to go. How many of those local teams would actually make the trip to KC if they did qualify ?
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06-22-2008, 11:27 AM | #3 | |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-02-07
Location: Cozad, Nebraska
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The event currently draws 5000 people to a town of 350. Oconto NE is situated in the BFE of NE. I am planning to talk to these few teams that "wanna go big" at this meeting. I am going to invite them to be part of a team to try it out at another KCBS event. Get some experience under their belt. I will also suggest if they want to be a KCBS event, they have a Pro and Amateur class. With seeing if we can get the Pro Class Sanctioned only. If there is an organizer, or KCBS official that I could call with questions during this meeting, please help.
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06-22-2008, 12:04 PM | #4 |
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Join Date: 08-13-06
Location: Tulsa, Ok
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I would be happy to send you materials and be available to help in any way, including by phone
e-mail me at mwhitebook at kcbs.us Merl Whitebook KCBS Board of Directors. |
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06-22-2008, 12:09 PM | #5 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-02-07
Location: Cozad, Nebraska
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Thanks, Merl. I will be contacting you when I know of the date of the meeting.
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06-22-2008, 08:08 PM | #6 |
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Join Date: 03-31-06
Location: Kansas City
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You might contact the organizers for a couple of Kansas contests that sound similar to your event...both KCBS sanctioned events.
McLouth, KS is a wonderful contest that we cooked a few years back. Small town (800 or so), but they still draw a good number of cooks each year and the community really gets behind it. Axtel, KS held a cook off last year to benefit their VFD. It's a town of about 400. You can find organizer phone numbers and e-mails on the KCBS contest calendar at www.kcbs.us. The McLouth contest is in June and the Axtell contest is in August. Might be worth a couple phone calls to see if it's worth it to sanction your contest. given the right date, I bet you would get a decent number of teams from Nebraska and Colorado.
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06-22-2008, 10:12 PM | #7 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-05-06
Location: Kansas City, KS
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This is Andy posting in drag - Just noticed Kim had logged me out. I think sanctioning will depend on what your goals are... If you are able to give all your money ( or a majority of it) to the VFD, you just need to do a cost benefit analysis to determine if sanctioning will get you what you want...
It is likely that sanctioning would give you access to more teams, but if you dont have sponsors that are going to put up prize money, you may not draw alot of cookers to BFE - unless they are a backer for your cause. And if you had a big sponsor willing to donate $$ -- you would want most of it to go to the VFD right? You are in a tough situation... If you can line up the sponsors, then I would say go for it... but without the right sponsors to set off your event, I am not sure the broader audience KCBS sanctioning would get you would pay off...
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06-22-2008, 10:35 PM | #8 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-02-07
Location: Cozad, Nebraska
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OK. Here's another question. Would any of you all be willing to travel to a town without hotel accomodations, no grocery store, not even a 24 hr convenince store to participate in an event that would payout only a total of maybe $5k in prizes?
Nearest town with hotels, grocery, yada, is 20 miles away. Oconto is 26 miles North of Lexington, NE.
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06-23-2008, 12:27 PM | #9 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-21-03
Location: Bandera Owner in Missouri
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Getting 15 teams the 1st year may not be a problem, getting 25 team the 2nd year may be a stretch.....I'm all for cooking sanctioned contests, but the little contest that the Bellys did this past weekend is 10 years old and is non sanctioned...you aren't going to get rich, but it's a heck of a lot of fun........rather tha see it it take a chance to go by the wayside, I think I'd keep it the same as you have it now....
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06-23-2008, 12:31 PM | #10 |
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Join Date: 10-14-07
Location: Arlington, Nebraska
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Dont think many if any would care about the lack of accomodations Shane, most of us come with all we need, and stay on site all night. A 5K purse split up isnt that small, if dates worked Tom and I would do it just to support another Nebraska contest.
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06-23-2008, 12:43 PM | #11 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 02-07-06
Location: boston ma
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Sounds like the guys who won want to keep their own little private competition while some of the other teams want to try to attract more people to come out and play.
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06-23-2008, 01:45 PM | #12 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 09-23-07
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