How to pretty up a grilled chicken?

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Hey y'all. I have been doing a LOT of vertical grilled whole chickens lately. My father-in-law absolutely loves them, swears it's the best chicken he has ever had. Cooking up a chicken or two on a Sunday for my FIL to take home for the week is a way for me to play with my pit/enjoy a few beers with not only permission from, but the express full-on blessing of my dear wife. :clap2: Naturally, I do this as often as possible, and both she and I ignore the fact that she is, and always will be, much smarter than me and fully aware of what I am up to. :laugh:

I won't say I've perfected it, because that would be untrue and boring and not allow me to keep spending money and time on new rubs, techniques, and BBQ Brethren threads. But I will say my chicken is pretty darn good. Anyhow, the process for me is pretty simple. Dry brine the bird overnight, then prop it up vertically and indirect grill it for around 90 minutes to temp. It turns out juicy, tender, and with a deep smoke flavor from the mesquite/apple chunks.

But, in the interest of refining technique (and because we eat with our eyes first), I have become unsatisfied with the appearance of these birds. The skin on the breast side in particular sometimes shrivels up, exposing the meat. And now and again, despite me putting little foil "booties" on both the drumsticks and wingtips, the tips of both will kinda get a bit too crispy.



Observe, dear Brethren.


Here we have one standard chicken. He has been taken from the comfort of his home in the meat section of H-E-B, dry brined, dressed in foil booties, and placed upon my Old Smokey in a standard 2-zone grilling configuration for your consideration. So far, so good:


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After almost an hour, we are coming along very nicely. Nice color, that skin is looking pretty tasty! Been basting it every 20 minutes or so with some garlic butter, because garlic butter makes everything better:

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Nooooooo! What could once be described as "gorgeous" or "purdy" is now in the dreaded "well, he has a really nice personality" territory. The skin has split, and that far side wing is a crispy critter. :doh:


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I thought I controlled the temp fairly well...running a medium-hot fire with no flares that I could see. Is this just a matter of cooking too hot? How can I prevent this from happening? It doesn't happen every time, but this is like the third or fourth time and I don't like it! Any suggestions?
 
Get a stick burner and keep thin blue smoke!

Hehehe, I have one but I very rarely do chicken on it. I think that is worth a try...next time I fire it up I'm gonna throw a bird in there. It has seriously been YEARS since I made a chicken in my offset.
 
Looks pretty to me, how did it taste?

Thanks! It tasted quite good. Did the tortilla and pico de gallo thing with it.

Honestly, I've been looking at a lot of pictures of competition chicken lately and am always in awe of how pretty it looks. Been wanting to concentrate harder on the appearance of my grub lately for some reason.
 
Do you know what temp you're running at?
the more we/ you know, the easier it is to make subtle changes.
maybe put an oven thermometer on the grill next to the bird the next time and check the temps when you baste it.
 
Do you know what temp you're running at?
the more we/ you know, the easier it is to make subtle changes.
maybe put an oven thermometer on the grill next to the bird the next time and check the temps when you baste it.

I'll be 100% honest and say I have no idea. I have never used a thermometer on the grill (only on my stickburner), I've always kinda done the "hand test". I guess it is time I start getting a bit more precise. What is a good brand of oven thermometer to use? Do I just place it on the rack?
 
Hehehe, I have one but I very rarely do chicken on it. I think that is worth a try...next time I fire it up I'm gonna throw a bird in there. It has seriously been YEARS since I made a chicken in my offset.


All these smokers give you smoke.
The stick burner with a good flame is CLEAN smoke.
Thin Blue Smoke
it gets the trash in the smoke from hitting your meat!

I have been converted
 
As to the skin ripping maybe moving the legs forward will but less stress on it :noidea: just a thought
 
Spatchcock the bird instead
I second sudsandwine. I have better luck with spatchcocking or splitting my birds. And in my opinion it helps with flavor since you get smoke and rub on the rib side of the breast too. With that said, yours is still purdy to me.
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The dark split skin is due to too much heat and smoke. After you try your stick burner, try cooking with a clean, hot charcoal fire (and no smoke wood).
 
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I'll start simply by stating that I'd hit any of the birds portrayed in the above shenanigans.

I'm a Vortex guy. I, too, like to stand a bird vertically in my 22.5 kettle, but I do it in the middle of an upside-down (wide part up) Vortex. I distribute hot coals around the outside of the Vortex, and the hot radiant/indirect heat cooks the bird from all angles and dangles.

For this type of cook, I like to stick with 350-ish as a dome temp, and I rotate the dome every 15 minutes to (potentially) provide more even heating/cooking via exhaust vectoring.... or something... like... that. :roll:

Hope that'll help somehow and maybe give you some ideas for consideration. Keep the birds cooking, man. I'd sure destroy some of that on this end.
 
I also do vertical whole chickens.
To me this produces a far better product (more evenly cooked, juicer, etc) than spatchcocking (I know I’m in the minority here)

The key is two fold.
1. Dry brine chicken for 24 hours
2. Cook low, raise heat at end of cook

For those that still think spatchcocking it is the best answer....I will admit it’s a cool word to say, but IMHO it produces a drier end product than vertical roasting in every single test I’ve run.
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I haven’t found much difference in vertical vs sitting on the grate. I do it in a two zone setup using the slow and sear which probably gives me a harder cutoff of the direct heat than you are getting. I run about 550 on the dome therm which is sitting right over the hot coals so much higher than the actual cook temp.

I’d try skipping the basting during the cook. As long as I start with a coating of oil I get crisp and browned skin. I think you might be trying a bit of a Peking duck thing which is hard to do without splitting the skin. The rub matters too. Ive been using a savory one that doesn’t have much sugar. Keeps the color much nicer.
 
Hey y'all. I have been doing a LOT of vertical grilled whole chickens lately. My father-in-law absolutely loves them, swears it's the best chicken he has ever had. Cooking up a chicken or two on a Sunday for my FIL to take home for the week is a way for me to play with my pit/enjoy a few beers with not only permission from, but the express full-on blessing of my dear wife. :clap2: Naturally, I do this as often as possible, and both she and I ignore the fact that she is, and always will be, much smarter than me and fully aware of what I am up to. :laugh:

I won't say I've perfected it, because that would be untrue and boring and not allow me to keep spending money and time on new rubs, techniques, and BBQ Brethren threads. But I will say my chicken is pretty darn good. Anyhow, the process for me is pretty simple. Dry brine the bird overnight, then prop it up vertically and indirect grill it for around 90 minutes to temp. It turns out juicy, tender, and with a deep smoke flavor from the mesquite/apple chunks.

But, in the interest of refining technique (and because we eat with our eyes first), I have become unsatisfied with the appearance of these birds. The skin on the breast side in particular sometimes shrivels up, exposing the meat. And now and again, despite me putting little foil "booties" on both the drumsticks and wingtips, the tips of both will kinda get a bit too crispy.



Observe, dear Brethren.


Here we have one standard chicken. He has been taken from the comfort of his home in the meat section of H-E-B, dry brined, dressed in foil booties, and placed upon my Old Smokey in a standard 2-zone grilling configuration for your consideration. So far, so good:


o64HERJh.jpg



After almost an hour, we are coming along very nicely. Nice color, that skin is looking pretty tasty! Been basting it every 20 minutes or so with some garlic butter, because garlic butter makes everything better:

JKvzl9Jh.jpg




Nooooooo! What could once be described as "gorgeous" or "purdy" is now in the dreaded "well, he has a really nice personality" territory. The skin has split, and that far side wing is a crispy critter. :doh:


wUymkDSh.jpg






I thought I controlled the temp fairly well...running a medium-hot fire with no flares that I could see. Is this just a matter of cooking too hot? How can I prevent this from happening? It doesn't happen every time, but this is like the third or fourth time and I don't like it! Any suggestions?

I'd go with spatchcocked....your's looks highly edible though! :cool:
 
TxQGuy,

I would heartily dig in to the chicken you posted. It may not win a competition fashion show, but if it tasted great, all is well.

I try to make pretty cooks, by my main objective is to make it taste great. If I hit that mark, I'm happy.

This said, I've had better luck with birds when I spatchcock them. They cook more evenly and much faster. It's the only way I cook a whole bird (chicken or turkey) anymore. Quick, easy, and delicious. :-D
 
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