Weber Kettle trouble with high heat indirect

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Hello All.

At Christmas in Michigan (cold), my brother and I cooked a 20lb bone-in ribeye roast. It was AWESOME.

Equipment: Weber 22.5 with ash catcher. iGrill
Setup: Foil pan (no water) in the middle of the coal grate to catch drippings, and form walls for the coals on eaither side. White hot coals on each side as deep as the foil pan and cooking grate would allow. We cut the roast in half - so that there would be 4 ends that would be a bit more done than the rest of the meat. I used my iGrill to monitor the cooker temp and the meat internal temp. We put the ambient probe above the cooking grate, in between the 2 halves of the roast.
Cook: after we put the meat on and put on the lid, the temp display on my iGrill max'd out. That means the temp was over 400 degrees. We cooked like that until the internal probe read 125 degrees. We pulled the meat, let it rest for 20 minutes or so, and then served it. It was perfect - best ever.

My brother went home to Colorado and recently repeated the same thing for a party. Same size Weber. Same setup of coals. He said his lid thermometer would not go above 325. We know that temperature measurement is dependent on many things (probe type, location, etc.). Partway through the cook he checked the meat. It was still very raw. He had to put the meat in his oven at 500 degrees to get it to finish in time for the dinner party.

We cannot figure out why his cooking temperature was so much lower than our cook in Michigan.

Vents were open and clear, etc., etc.

The only thing we can figure is wind. Can a breeze in a certain direction cause this? That is the only thing that could be different.

And ideas would be helpful. Thanks.
 

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Thinner air at altitude produces a cooler fire, Thermo location; you where monitoring at grate level, thermo accuracy; was his thermo in calibration
 
A little breeze can really make a hotter fire especially in the cold there is more oxygen getting in to the kettle when it is cold. Less when warmer or higher altitude. So yeah weather effects a cook. Especially on a kettle. Trust me I own 6 kettles.
 
This is a hard one to nail down. So many inaccuracies inherent here. The Weber thermometers are generally crap, and they tend to be affected by some of the hot air escaping rather than just showing the cooking temperature. Thinner air would have definitely played a part. I would put my money on the real downfall is the lid thermo. It is just hard to compare a lid thermo to a grate level. Also did he know to have his lid vent positioned opposite the coals?

Another quick thought, his roast wasn't still partly frozen was it? That will get some people by surprise.
 
Wow. Thanks for the quick, useful replies. I will try to answer a few of them here:

I don't think the temp probes (probes, thermometers) are the main cause because 1) the temp difference appears to be 150 degrees or more; and 2) when he checked the meat, it definitely was not as cooked as it should have been if the temp was hotter than his thermo was indicating.

The 3 possible causes I am leaning towards are:

1) Altitude - less air means less oxygen for the coals, which means less heat.
2) Frozen meat. If the meat was still partially frozen in the center, it would obviously take a lot longer to cook
3) Wind - this is the hardest to nail down, but I am hearing that it can make a big difference - especially in cold weather.
 
I forgot to answer the lid position. The lid vent was centered with respect to the coals on either side. There was coals on both sides - meat in the center.
 
How about the starting temp of the roast. How long had it been out of the 'fridge?
 
One other thing... It looks like your kettle has the One Touch system. Does his, or is it an older one with the three bottom vents? Wind is a bigger factor on the older kettles. The recommendation from Weber is to have the single leg (the one without the wheel) pointed into the wind. Of course, this assumes that the kettle has been put together properly :-D
 
Ash over the lower vents is what pops into my mind. Some charcoal brands create a lot of ash.
 
My first guess is altitude as well. I would note that all of his charcoal is not lit.
 
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