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Old 11-06-2009, 07:23 PM   #1
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Here is a fairly extensive list of the votes taken by the BoD for 2009. Again, I hope this helps people when making their decision on who to vote for.
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2009 KCBS BOARD OF DIRECTORS VOTING


JANUARY, 2009

  • Don Harwell made a motion that for the 2009 Season competition cooking team shall be tracked by the Head Cook’s KCBS membership number, for purposed of Team of the Year. Passed. (no specific voting record or vote count announced)

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion for KCBS to adopt a policy which would require that each program, contract or venture of KCBS in the future, be budgeted and be economically sound and calculated to at least break even without economic loss to KCBS. Vote: 3 yes, 8 no 0 abstentions. Motion failed.

FEBRUARY, 2009

  • The Board considered a motion which would allow members to speak at the beginning of the meetings on any issue or any agenda item, though the KCBS conference call system and to place a recording of the KCBS meeting on the website which could be accessed by members.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, no
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, no
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    The motion failed 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions

  • The Board considered a motion which would require KCBS to not enter into or conduct a program, contract or venture of KCBS in the future, which is not calculated to be economically sound and projected to at least break even without the Board first appropriating and approving the amount of estimated economic loss to KCBS. At no time may KCBS expend an amount greater than the economic loss which was approved by the Board.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, no
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, yes
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    Vote 5 Yes, 6 no 0 abstentions, the motion failed.

  • The Board approved the voluntary use of Comment Cards by CBJ’s and other judges to provide comments for Cooks
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, yes
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, yes
    Steve Ownby, yes
    Ed Roith, yes
    Tana Shupe, yes
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    The motion for the voluntary use of comment cards passes Vote: 9 yes 2 no 0 abstentions

  • The Board considered a motion to modify the “Licensed Contests” agreement to allow State Proclamations.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea yes,
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, no
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, no
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, yes
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook no
    The motion failed with a vote of 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions

  • The board discussed a motion that the MP3 recording of the open portions of all board meetings (Annual, Regular and Call) be place on our WEB under the members only section. \
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, no
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, no
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    The motion fails by a vote of 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions


  • A motion was approved for KCBS end the practice of putting cooking classes in the Bullsheet and on the web, without a charge, to be effective April 1, 2009.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, abstain
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, abstain
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, yes
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    5 yes, 4 no 2 abstentions, the motion passes.


  • A motion was made to remove Ranking as a method of scoring for ancillary contest.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, abstain
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, Did not vote
    Paul Kirk, yes
    Wayne Lohman, yes
    Linda Mullane, yes
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, yes
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    Vote 7 yes, 2 no, 1 Abstention and one member was absent from the vote. The motion to discontinue the use of Ranking to score ancillary contests, passes.

  • A motion was made to make all rules, forms and programs effective January 1, of each year beginning in 2010.
    Vote:
    Rod Gray, no
    Gene Goycochea, yes
    Don Harwell, yes
    Paul Kirk, no
    Wayne Lohman, no
    Linda Mullane, yes
    Steve Ownby, no
    Ed Roith, no
    Tana Shupe, no
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Merl Whitebook yes
    Vote 5 yes, 6 no, 0 abstentions, the motion to implement all rules forms and programs on a calendar year basis, motion fails.

MARCH, 2009

  • “The technology committee will work with other providers to obtain the FREE dial in number connections so that no prepayment is necessary and only registration to dial into the Board of Directors meeting is required. Any member in Good Standing will be permitted to access all portions of the Board of Directors meeting except for “executive session” online listening only. This maybe limited to a certain number of members based on the conference call abilities. Any member who has provided a form to the Secretary to speak at the Board Meeting regarding an agenda item or a general topic, shall be recognized at the appropriate time in the agenda, or at the beginning of the agenda item he/she has registered to speak, and will allowed to address the board via the conference call system.”
    Vote:
    Rod Gray No
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk Yes
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Steve Ownby No
    Wayne Lohman No
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Ed Roith Yes
    Merl Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe Yes
    The motion for telephone access passes 8 Yes, 3 No, 0 Abstentions.

  • The Board discussed the members only section and it was determined that Team Bios will remain in the public section of the KCBS web site. Matters such as KCBS Bylaws, forms, how to break a time, critiques, guide for meat inspections and other materials should be moved the members only section.


APRIL, 2009

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to modify the By Laws to modify the composition of the Board: Regional Board Representation
    It is therefore proposed that the make up of the Board of Directors be as follows:
    6 members at large to serve 3 years terms with a two term limit.
    6 regional members to serve 3 years terms with two term limit.
    Regions would be as follows:
    KC/MO Kansas and Missouri
    Southern Region Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee.
    Mid-Western Region Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa. South Dakota, North Dakota
    Eastern Region South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont and New York. Pennsylvania
    Western Region Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Alaska, Hawaii and International
    Ohio Valley and Northern Region Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota.

    Vote:
    Rod Gray no
    Don Harwell yes
    Paul Kirk no
    Linda Mullane yes
    Steve Ownby no
    Wayne Lohman no
    Gene Goycochea yes
    Carol Whitebook yes
    Ed Roith no
    Merl Whitebook yes
    Tana Shupe no
    Motion to modify the By Laws fails

MAY, 2009

  • Ed Roith made a motion to reinstate personnel whom had previously been terminated from providing services to KCBS. The motion was seconded by Tana Shupe.
    Vote:
    8 yes, 2 no, 1 abstention
    The motion to reinstate personnel passes.

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to approve all timely requested sanctioning requests (including licenses), and to table those 4 which were late. The motion for approval was seconded by Paul Kirk.

    Vote:
    7 yes, 4 no, 0 abstentions

  • Wayne Lohman made a motion to suspend the rules and approve an emergency date change for the Whitehorn Cove, Wagoner, Oklahoma contest scheduled for Memorial Day way due to flooding of the contest area and approve the new date of July 24-25. The motion was seconded by Carol Whitebook.
    Vote:
    11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstain
    The motion to suspend the rules and allow the date change to July 24-25 for the Whitehorn Cove contest was approved.

JUNE, 2009

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to deny the appeal of personnel matter from a Contest Rep. Vote:
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Wayne Lohman No
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk No
    Ed Roith Yes
    Steve Ownby No
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe No
    Rod Gray Yes
    Merl Whitebook Yes The motion to deny appeal, passed.
  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to waive ‘Rule 2” to allow teams to compete in a single place at a 3 contest -2 day event which had previous been sanctioned by KCBS to occur.
    Vote:
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Wayne Lohman Yes
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk Yes
    Ed Roith Yes
    Steve Ownby No
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe Abstain
    Rod Gray No
    Merl Whitebook Yes

    The motion to waive rule 2 for a single event 3 contest passes.

  • Gene Goycochea made a motion to approve a non monetized member benefit to be negotiated with Restaurant Depot.
    Vote:
    11 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstention
    The motion passes

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion which would require Organizers beginning 2010 to advertise the actual “cash prize award” separate from other prizes or awards.
    Vote:
    11 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstention

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to change the rotation of the annual banquet to provide that the 2010 banquet shall be held at a regional location to be determined and the 2011 annual banquet shall be held in Kansas City area to celebrate the 25th anniversary of KCBS.
    Vote:
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Wayne Lohman Yes
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk Yes
    Ed Roith Yes
    Steve Ownby Yes
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe Yes
    Rod Gray No
    Merl Whitebook Yes

    The motion passes

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to immediately establish an interim publication committee to review the Bullsheet content until a publication policy is adopted.

    Vote
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Wayne Lohman No
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk No
    Ed Roith Yes
    Steve Ownby No
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe No
    Rod Gray No
    Merl Whitebook Yes

    The motion to create an interim publication committee passes.

  • Don Harwell made a motion to have legal prepare an appropriate release to signed at contests where food is taken home by judges.

    Vote:
    10 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstentions
    The motion passes

  • Don Harwell made a motion to have recommended guideline to organizers to limit the size of ancillary turn in tray or container to approximately an 11’ by 14” dimension.

    Vote:
    10 Yes, 0 No 0 Abstentions
    The motion passes

  • Don Harwell made a motion that when determining the number of teams at a contest, all teams, including master series or backyard for which the Contest Reps are responsible, are to be included for purposes of determining the number of reps required at a contest.
    Vote:
    10 Yes, 0 No, 0 Abstention
    The motion to count all cooks which the Rep is responsible for passes.

  • Merl Whitebook made a motion to approve a resolution of an appeal by a member concerning the issue of the amount of prize payment as advertised by a contest.
    Vote:
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Wayne Lohman Yes
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Paul Kirk not present
    Ed Roith Abstain
    Steve Ownby Abstain
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe Yes
    Rod Gray No
    Merl Whitebook Yes
    The motion passes.
JULY, 2009

  • The Board accepted the resignation from the Board of Directors of KCBS. Thereafter, the following names were place in nomination to fill the remaining term:

    Mike Budai,
    Barbara Millroy
    Steve Farin
    Michael Terry
    Vote:
    Ed Roith Mike Budai
    Linda Mullane Steve Farin
    Paul Kirk Mike Budai
    Gene Goycochea Barb Milroy
    Steve Ownby Mike Budai
    Don Harwell Barb Milroy
    Wayne Lohman Mike Budai
    Carol Whitebook Barb Milroy
    Tana Shupe Mike Budai
    Merl Whitebook Barb Milroy

    Mike Budai is elected to serve the remaining term on the Board of Directors

  • The Board next considered filling the vacancy for the Office of Treasurer. Merl Whitebook made a motion to table the election until the August meeting in order to allow Mike Budai to present his qualifications and a statement in support of his election. Paul Kirk seconded the motion

    Vote
    11 yes, 0 no 0 abstentions
    The election was tabled until the August meeting.

  • Tana Shupe made a motion to fund the grant request by the Corliss Johnson Cancer Foundation (cancersuckchicago.com) and Kooker Kare in the amount of $5,000.00 each to be paid in two payments. The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook

    Vote:
    11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
    The Grant request are funded as stated in the motion.

  • Tana Shupe made a motion to provide a remedy of censure to a board member or members who fail to follow basic rules of etiquette and professional behavior during board meetings. The motion was seconded by Steve Ownby.
    Vote:
    Ed Roith Yes
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Paul Kirk Yes
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Steve Ownby Yes
    Don Harwell Yes
    Wayne Lohman Yes
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe Yes
    Merl Whitebook Yes
    The motion passes.

  • Don Harwell made a motion to adopt Robert’s Rules of Order Tenth Addition. The motion was seconded by Gene Goycochea
    Vote:
    Ed Roith No
    Linda Mullane Yes
    Paul Kirk No
    Gene Goycochea Yes
    Steve Ownby No
    Don Harwell Yes
    Wayne Lohman No
    Carol Whitebook Yes
    Tana Shupe No
    Merl Whitebook Yes
    The vote being a tie, Mike Lake cast the deciding vote: No
    The motion failed.

  • The Board discussed the issue of a Contest Rep allowing a late entry. Carol Whitebook made a motion for KCBS to pay the correct amounts to correct the error both in the category and overall. The motion was seconded by Steve Ownby,
    Vote:
    10 yes, 0 no, 1 abstain
    The motion passes

  • Carol Whitebook made a motion to correct team of the year points to correct error of accepting a late turn in. The motion was seconded by Wayne Lohman.

    Vote
    10 yes, 0 no 1 abstain
    The motion passes

August 09
34. Gene presented a proposal to purchase the banners to be displayed at the Judging area promoting KCBS and membership, in order to aid Contest Reps in promoting KCBS at contest. Gorilla Banners agreed to provide KCBS with the banners at a substation discount to support our organization. Gene made a motion to purchase the banners from Gorilla Banners. Paul Kirk seconded the motion.

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
The motion to purchase KCBS promotional banners passes.

35. Don Harwell reported in July we had 9 members request to monitor the meeting with 6 calling in.
Don reported that KCBS has received a proposal from Garry Howard for the Web/DB integration.
Don reported that KCBS has obtained a proposal from Informatec to upgrade the office from a desktop to server environment. Don Harwell made a motion to engage InformaTec to upgrade the KCBS office to a server environment at a cost of $7,412.50. The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook.

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
The motion to engage InformaTec and upgrade the office to a server environment passes

36. Linda Mullane reported that a survey will be on the KCBS website to obtain member input as to Team of the Year procedures. The survey will be available in September, 2009.

Linda Mullane brought up the issue of Certified Table Captain classed. Linda urged that many people desire to participate in KCBS contests, but prefer not to judge due to personal preference or health reasons. Linda Mullane made a motion that the Certified Table Captain class be available to all members of KCBS or those who desire to become a member of KCBS. The motion was seconded by Carol Whitebook.

Vote:
Mike Budai No
Gene Goycochea Yes
Don Harwell Yes
Paul Kirk Yes
Wayne Lohman No
Linda Mullane Yes
Carol Whitebook Yes
Tana Shupe No
Steve Ownby No
Ed Roith No
Merl Whitebook Yes

6 yes, 5 no, 0 abstentions
The motion to allow all members of KCBS to become attend and become Certified Barbeque Judges, passes.

37. Merl Whitebook urged that KCBS adopt a policy and procedure to waive a certificate of insurance when under the Political Tort Claims Acts, a governmental agency is prevented by law from providing a certificate of insurance.

Merl Whitebook made a motion to grant a waive to any governmental agency upon receipt from the attorney for the governmental agency stating
1. The writer is familiar with requirements for a certificate of insurance in favor of KCBS.
2. Pursuant to the ordinance or statutes (to be cited) the political subdivision cannot by law provide a certificate of insurance which would comply with the requirements of the sanctioning agreement and a waiver is required.

The motion was seconded by Gene Goycochea

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions

38. The Board adopted the following schedule for this year’s election procedure for Board of Nomination period - October 1, 2009 and closes October 31, 2009
Candidates will submit picture, bio, campaign platforms and answers to the election questionnaire. to be received the KCBS office %Carolyn@kcbs and [email protected] by November 10, 2009.

Ads will be published in the Bullsheet along with the election questionnaire – in the December and January additions of the Bullsheet.

The eligible voters to be qualified to vote are members in good standing of KCBS as of December 15, 2009.

Voting for the candidates to the Board of Directors will begin though Elections online beginning January 2, 2010 and ending January 15, 2010 at 12:00 a.m. CST.

Election results and notification of the winners of the 2010 election will be announced at the Banquet: January 16, 2010.

The motion was seconded by Carol Whitebook

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
The board adopted the procedures and dates for the 2010 election for KCBS Board of Directors.


40. The KCBS Board is hereby requested by Myron Mixon of Jack's Old South competition cooking team, whom upon discovering an inadvertent error in registering for two contests on the same date, under the same name, and to further the Spirit of BBQ competition and the Creed of KCBS that the results of each contest be modified to award the Reserve Grand Champion in each case. The Grand Championship and all other places should be corrected accordingly. Jack’s Old South wants to do what is right and honorable thing.
Myron Mixon stated he made a mistake in filling out his applications and he is sorry for that. Jack's Old South was meeting an obligation and promise he made to a friend and organizer of the Myrtle Beach, SC contest several months ago. After that the TLC BBQ Reality Show came along and it was a fast paced deal. Myron Mixon never intended to get or want points from two contests. The KCBS Board stated Myron Mixon has never done anything but promote BBQ, KCBS and other BBQ events. Myron Mixon and Jack's Old South is a team of integrity that loves BBQ and the competition and will compete by the rules of any organization and abide by those rules.

The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook.

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
The motion passes to correct the scores at the two contests.

41. Carol Whitebook made a motion to suspend a Contest Rep until May 1, 2010, for soliciting a contest organizer for a contest. The motion was second by Ed Roith

Vote:
10 yes, 0 no, Linda Mullane abstained.
The motion to suspend a Contest Rep passes.

42. Linda Mullane made a motion that the office include the names of Contest Reps requested by Organizers be included in the reports of soft approval of contests and licensed contests be sent to the Board of Directors. The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook.

Vote:
11 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions
The motion to include the name of requested Contest Reps, passes.

43. Linda Mullane made a motion to require judges names and other team numbers be redacted when judging slips which have been requested, are sent to cooks. The motion was seconded by Ed Roith.

Vote:
10 yes 1 no, 0 abstention
The motion to redact information on judges slips sent to cooks, passes.

44. Ed Roith made a motion to increase the fee structure for CBJ class instructors. Beginning immediately, instructors shall be paid a flat fee of $300.00 for CBJ classes up to 54 students. Any class number above 54, the instructor will be paid a fee of $350.00. This will not apply to classes associated with a KCBS contest.

The motion was seconded by Don Harwell.

Vote:
Mike Budai yes
Gene Goycochea Abstain
Don Harwell yes
Paul Kirk no
Wayne Lohman yes
Linda Mullane yes
Carol Whitebook yes
Tana Shupe yes
Steve Ownby yes
Ed Roith Abstain
Merl Whitebook Abstain

7 yes 1 no, 3 abstentions
The motion to change CBJ instructor fees, passes.
Note: The members of the Board who are CBJ instructors abstained in this vote.

NOTES: I didn’t include every vote. Votes for things such as opening and closing meetings, votes for approving events and votes to move in and out of executive committee were not included.
I don’t have the October minutes, so those are not included.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:57 PM   #2
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Very well done. With that info condensed, it males it easier to make a more informed decision. Steve.
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That's one heck of a re-cap job,
very informative,
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Thanks for the kind words, but I only compiled a quarter of the list or less. Can't really take credit for it.

I hope it helps.

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Interesting when they are all in a row like this:

There was a motion made in July to table the selection of a treasurer until the august meeting. Since it was not voted on in august, does KCBS have a treasurer? or who is watching the money?
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Interesting when they are all in a row like this:

There was a motion made in July to table the selection of a treasurer until the august meeting. Since it was not voted on in august, does KCBS have a treasurer? or who is watching the money?
Doesn't look like they care to much about the money after reading this one.

The Board considered a motion which would require KCBS to not enter into or conduct a program, contract or venture of KCBS in the future, which is not calculated to be economically sound and projected to at least break even without the Board first appropriating and approving the amount of estimated economic loss to KCBS. At no time may KCBS expend an amount greater than the economic loss which was approved by the Board.
Vote:
Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, yes
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
Vote 5 Yes, 6 no 0 abstentions, the motion failed.
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To all KCBS Members:

I started out with good intentions to run for the KCBS Board of Directors but soon learned I cannot possibly fulfill the position. News from my family will demand more attention, which could affect my dedication to serve on the Board.

I apologize to anyone affected by my nomination withdrawal but it’s a decision that will be positive for my family as well as the KCBS Board. I absolutely love KCBS and what it stands for and truly believe in its mission. I will still be involved as a KCBS rep and cooking in competition, but the Board demands a lot of extra time in which I now need to divert elsewhere. Thank you to Tana Shupe who believed enough in me to nominate me for the Board and to those who supported me.

I would like to take this opportunity to express my support for Jeff Stith, Big Creek BBQ, who has positive visions for KCBS. He is truly dedicated to promote KCBS and is ready to tackle concerns from its members. I agree with his views and promote his candidacy for Board of Directors.


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Doesn't look like they care to much about the money after reading this one.

The Board considered a motion which would require KCBS to not enter into or conduct a program, contract or venture of KCBS in the future, which is not calculated to be economically sound and projected to at least break even without the Board first appropriating and approving the amount of estimated economic loss to KCBS. At no time may KCBS expend an amount greater than the economic loss which was approved by the Board.
Vote:
Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, yes
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
Vote 5 Yes, 6 no 0 abstentions, the motion failed.
According to the 2008, 990 filed on guidestar.com, KCBS lost $75,000.00 in 2008, that is why these motions to have budget constraints were brought up. For three years I have urged motions to operate under budget constraints, each of which have been defeated. Last year is the first year to experience a major budge deficit.

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These two issues and the fact that they didn't pass are of concern to me:

The Board considered a motion which would allow members to speak at the beginning of the meetings on any issue or any agenda item, though the KCBS conference call system and to place a recording of the KCBS meeting on the website which could be accessed by members.
Vote:
Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, no
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
The motion failed 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions


The board discussed a motion that the MP3 recording of the open portions of all board meetings (Annual, Regular and Call) be place on our WEB under the members only section. \
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Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, no
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
The motion fails by a vote of 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions
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Eric, yes, those are two troubling votes for me as well. As you know, I am a huge supporter of transparency and open communication. Granted, we don't know the circumstances of these votes and what might have been discussed prior to a vote being taken but on the surface at least, if you are in favor of being heard and being able to listen to board meetings, take a look at who voted no and vote yourself in January!
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These two issues and the fact that they didn't pass are of concern to me:

The Board considered a motion which would allow members to speak at the beginning of the meetings on any issue or any agenda item, though the KCBS conference call system and to place a recording of the KCBS meeting on the website which could be accessed by members.
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Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, no
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
The motion failed 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions


The board discussed a motion that the MP3 recording of the open portions of all board meetings (Annual, Regular and Call) be place on our WEB under the members only section. \
Vote:
Rod Gray, no
Gene Goycochea, yes
Don Harwell, yes
Paul Kirk, no
Wayne Lohman, no
Linda Mullane, no
Steve Ownby, no
Ed Roith, no
Tana Shupe, no
Carol Whitebook yes
Merl Whitebook yes
The motion fails by a vote of 4 yes, 7 no, 0 abstentions

The vote not to allow taping or MP3 was defeated because of information brought forth in discussion which could effect any legal actions possibly brought against KCBS. The following month the dial in to meeting was approved.
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The vote not to allow taping or MP3 was defeated because of information brought forth in discussion which could effect any legal actions possibly brought against KCBS. The following month the dial in to meeting was approved.
So Linda, are you saying that on the first of those two votes, you would have voted yes for it that last part about placing a recording on the Web site had not been included?
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So Linda, are you saying that on the first of those two votes, you would have voted yes for it that last part about placing a recording on the Web site had not been included?
The following month I was the one who brought the motion to the floor to allow the calling in of membership. The recorded part is what I objected to from the discussion. A little more insight is I was the person who seconded Merl's original proposal and then after discussion voted against it.
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The following month I was the one who brought the motion to the floor to allow the calling in of membership. The recorded part is what I objected to from the discussion. A little more insight is I was the person who seconded Merl's original proposal and then after discussion voted against it.

Here's my thought on all these so called fears that board members have about being sued over something they've done or said in meetings during which a recorded meeting would help in preservation of "evidence"... our own Congress is live AND recorded on C-Span every day. Surely they have more urgent and life or death issues to debate than barbeque and yet those sessions are recorded and always available publicly. If there is such a fear, maybe folks should watch what they say in a public meeting and always act responsibly and ethically. And if you are, what's to fear with recorded meetings?
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Does anyone else find it interesting that Merl consistently votes for open meetings?
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