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11-01-2011, 07:42 AM | #46 | |
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How would that work on a practical level? What types of committee work would be done locally? Here in California there was a difficult time last year over KCBS not sanctioning a second contest in the same weekend PNWBBQA ended up sanctioning the second one Both ended up being very successful (This was the Vegas weekend and why Smoke on the Water didn't see a huge team count) Maybe a committee would have been able to communicate that we can do two in one weekend now
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11-01-2011, 09:34 AM | #47 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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The simple fact in Texas and Louisiana is that price point is a barrier for KCBS. Cooking IBCA, LSBS, or TGCBCA offers a "value". Entry fee is lower, you cook three meats instead of four, etc... This past year, I cooked with some well know KCBS cooks in Irving and we had more fun than I'd had in years and one thing I heard was that it was a lot like KCBS used to be. That didn't mean better or worse, but different. At the end of the day, in terms of competition bbq, KCBS is a sanctioning organization that provides a service. It takes an organizer to make a contest happen. If organizers from a particular area don't approach KCBS for sanctioning, there is no growth in that region. If the teams and judges will support a contest the opportunity for growth is there. It's all about demand, and from what I'm told from friends in AR, LA, and TX that level of interest is growing. I think that is good for everyone. Including sanctioning bodies in Texas. Some of the best cooks I know, cook in multiple organizations and I think it contributes to making them better and that is good for everyone. I don't think it's a matter of KCBS not caring, I think it's a matter of KCBS not having many opportunities to show the love.
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11-01-2011, 11:59 AM | #48 | |
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11-01-2011, 01:45 PM | #49 | |
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I want to hear what ideas they have. I might not agree with some, most or all of them - but I do want to hear them!
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11-01-2011, 10:40 PM | #50 | |
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Join Date: 03-03-06
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First off, MMA has a multi year contract, they were already in as they were bringing in good money for KCBS and nobody wanting to end something that was working, 2. the requirement for the 10 contests was not unreasonable, they wanted someone who could walk into any situation and be able to fix it, a newer organizer may or may not have delt with too many situations and could probably fix almost anything near home, it is when you are freestyling in an ara where you cannot call your friends to help you out. |
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11-01-2011, 10:42 PM | #51 | |
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11-02-2011, 06:48 AM | #52 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-27-06
Location: Bothell WA
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Regional Representation
I'm a PNWBA Board member up for relection and also a dues paying KCBS member.
When I got interested in BBQ in 2006, Jim Minion was a KCBS BOD member Western BBQ Assn. President, so the talk of Regional representation has caught my attention. 2011 saw more local KCBS events in PNWBA Land than the last few years combined and I for one would like to see more. Speaking for myself I could care less if the event I'm cooking is KCBS or PNWBA as long as there is an open line of communication, and that seems to be the problem with KCBS sanctioned events in the Northwest. Organizers think they are getting a "World Class BBQ event with KCBS when all they are really getting is some CBJ's and the scoring system. They don't do a good job of getting the word out to cooks and judges. The Reps that are in charge are some of the BEST, but its not their job to promote the events and they seem to bear the burdens. Most CBJ's around here are both KCBS & PNWBA trained but it seems very few if any pay attention to the Bullsheet or Calendar and instead use the PNWBA Forums for their info. ...so on that note, I would like to encourage anyone running for a KCBS position to stop in on the PNWBA Forum, introduce yourself and tap into an organization with over 800 members and has been around since 1991 and still growing. History of the PNWBA The Pacific Northwest Barbecue Association is a non-profit organization dedicated to the promotion and enjoyment of barbecue in the Northwest.The PNWBA is committed to educating the public in the furtherance and development of authentic barbecue knowledge through cooking classes, judging classes, and competition barbecue cooking events. Our organization is managed by a Board of Directors who are made up completely with volunteers. It was formed in 1991 by a group of Northwestern barbecuers. Over the years it has grown from 20 members to over 800 internationally. The PNWBA publishes a news letter called Drippings from the Pit. This publication reaches it's 800 plus members informing them about the world of BBQ in our region. Since it's beginnings the PNWBA has been putting on BBQ contests from as far north as Whistler, British Columbia and south to Oregon and east to Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Included among these events are many state and provincial championships. The winners/grand champions of these BBQ contests are qualified to be invited to cook at national and world championship events. Among these are the American Royal, the Jack Daniels World Invitational Championship Barbecue Contest, the Great American and several others. At these contests our cooks have gone head to head and grill to grill with the world best cooks and brought home the gold. The ranks of the PNWBA include the finest cooks in the world bar none. These events have been widely attended by the public in the upwards of 20,000 people. Also it has raised money for charitable events and good causes all around the Northwest. Each year the Association hosts BBQ cooking and competition judging classes to educate the public and pass on the culinary art of barbecue cooking. Some of the teachers of these classes include BBQ Guru's Smoky Hale, Paul Kirk the Kansas City Baron of BBQ, Ray Lampe AKA Dr. BBQ, Myron Mixon of Jack's old South fame, Tony Stone and Merle Ellis, including our very own All Star Pitmasters. Our All Star Pitmasters class covers the cooking of chicken, rib, beef brisket and pork butt as well as BBQ theory. Graduates of our Pitmaster's classes have gone on to be national and world champs or just darn good backyard BBQ chefs. As the PNWBA has evolved and grown so has the world of competition BBQ. It is now seen on national TV, in news papers, magazines and many cook books. It is championed by BBQ evangelists like Rick Browne and Steve Raichlen. Contests are growing into huge multimedia events with the prize money up to $35,000. The Pacific Northwest Barbecue Association is also rising to the challenge by putting on bigger and better public friendly events with the focus being on the cooks (the back bone of the association). The future is now, so let's cook!!! I'm also a CBBQA Member and forum lurker!
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11-02-2011, 08:18 AM | #53 | |
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I do however think that we are not protected as well as we should be with MMA when it comes to non compete. MMA has the ability to and is currently from what I understand participating in ventures that are very similar to what we are doing with the road show and with some of the same sponsors. Is that true? I know that you have heard my rants at the board meetings before and I am sure some of you think I am a trouble maker about different things and I am simply trying to get some things out in the open with this. It is not a personal attack on you. I have told Candy before I will hold your (the board) feet to the fire on occasion with things and I will tell you what I think and what my opinion is. We all have them you know. |
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11-02-2011, 01:52 PM | #54 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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11-02-2011, 02:32 PM | #55 |
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Jeff the Sam's Organizer jobs were open
Some were run by non BoD members with less than 10 years experience organizing
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11-02-2011, 05:38 PM | #56 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Define open. Was there an at large communication and casting call to organizers?
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11-03-2011, 07:01 AM | #57 | |
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Maybe it could have been more advertised, don't know. |
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11-03-2011, 07:35 AM | #58 | |
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I and a few friends who run contests got an email asking us to pick a date and apply I asked for the Fort Worth date, having family in that area. MMA went with Ronnie for that one
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11-03-2011, 11:10 AM | #59 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 03-03-06
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it was open, an e-mail was sent to KCBS organizers withthe qualifications required, the 10 events required by Sam's cut most out.... time away from (regular jobs) probably took out most though...
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11-03-2011, 02:35 PM | #60 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 10-09-06
Location: Blue Springs, MO
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Jeff, I assume you got that mail?
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