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Old 04-18-2018, 07:57 AM   #31
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oh my apologies. I didn't see that the first time
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:33 AM   #32
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Rusty,

Let me tell you a little about myself. I'm Skippy! I started this BBQ journey 5 years ago when I first saw the first BBQ Pitmasters show. I looked up a local contest and went there with 1 goal. Not to come in last. I ended up 14th out of 19. From there I was hooked. I did 3 comps that year, 3 the next year, 5 the third year, and then 13 the fourth year, and 6 last year. I've bought just about everything you could imagine. I went from 2 cans and 2 EZ-Ups, to a trailer smoker, to an enclosed trailer, to a concession trailer 2 years ago. I have went through smokers to the point of other teams placing odds on when I would change the type of smoker again. It was all in good fun of course.
Here is what I have learned:
- It's the cook, not the cooker
- A class or 2 IS the best BBQ investment that can be made. Take one from a team that cooks on the same equipment. When I switched to drums, I took the Hot & Fast Gateway class. My 2nd comp that season was a GC.
- I will NEVER have the money it takes to compete for Team of the Year in KCBS.
- I will NEVER have the time it takes to compete for KCBS TOY.
- Once you buy bigger (trailer for example) more purchases seem to follow. When I bought my porch trailer, I pulled it home from Georgia, up I-75 with a V8 F-150. It pulled fine, but I always thought that if i had a bigger truck, I'd never have to worry about that again. Then I could upgrade again in a few years and wouldn't have to worry about a new truck.
- When I did 13 comps in 1 season, I was wore out. I'm from Michigan. I went to 5 states that year. I put over 10k miles just in BBQ that year. I had arguments with the wife because I was neglecting home duties. I was on a roll. I had 2 GC's, and 2 reserves, and most other finishes were top 5's. That was how I justified it. I now compare that to gambling. I let my winnings control what i was doing. I let it ride. I ended up breaking even. That's what did it for me.
Now I am happy to stay in Michigan, compete against the same teams every month in our state contests and hope I do well. I sold my vending style porch trailer. I will be back to 2 ez-ups, 3 gateways, and hauling it with an open utility type trailer.
Keep what you do as simple as you can make it. If you buy a trailer, you will most certainly encounter 1 of 2 things. 1.) Due to the relativity low tow capacity of the van, you would most likely have a good amount of repairs down the road 2.) Upgrade to a larger vehicle. End of the day, it all = More Money than what you have to work with.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:40 AM   #33
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All great advice in here. Makes me respect and appreciate the Brethren even more! Other forums would have talked him into spending more money than what he originally planned to..... you guys truly are a family in here.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:09 AM   #34
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I started competing in 2012 on a borrowed homemade offset pit. I got 3 calls and I won $1,000 and a trip to Vegas for potato salad of all things. Needless to say, I was hooked.

Since that time I have “invested” well over a quarter of a million dollars back into competition BBQ (not including vehicles and trailers). I have maxed out my cards for repairs or expenses and paid them all off again with winnings and classes 5 times over.

But, there can be a payoff. Now I own 3 restaurants, teach several classes each year, and have partnerships with quality brands. This allows me to be one of the few lucky ones that is able to do competition cooking as a full time job.

It can be done, it does take a lot of risk, and it is a very long shot. It takes thousands of hours of dedication and work that may amount to nothing on top of the money. Time away from your family, time on the road alone. I live and breathe competition cooking to a fault, but that’s just the way I’m wired. I love every minute of it.

If it’s your passion, go make it happen, but remember nothing comes cheap or easy. Best of luck to you.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:29 AM   #35
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Great thread, this should be bookmarked. I wish I could compete several times a year like other teams, but with family and financial obligations it's not realistic for me. Good to know I'm not the only one.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:37 AM   #36
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But, there can be a payoff. Now I own 3 restaurants, teach several classes each year, and have partnerships with quality brands. This allows me to be one of the few lucky ones that is able to do competition cooking as a full time job.
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You do classes you say??? LOL
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:44 PM   #37
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If looking for a good knife set I would look at flint and flame USA knifes. They are the best knifes I have owned. Love them and the customer service is great
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:57 AM   #38
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You can't take money out of a 410k without paying taxes and a 10% penalty unless you are at retirement age. So highest tax bracket is 39.6% plus a 10% penalty......

With that being said, my main goal is comfort first, then move forward with smokers, knives, etc. I would get a good ez-up with sides first! Then think about drums or other smokers!
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:52 PM   #39
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You can't take money out of a 410k without paying taxes and a 10% penalty unless you are at retirement age. So highest tax bracket is 39.6% plus a 10% penalty......

With that being said, my main goal is comfort first, then move forward with smokers, knives, etc. I would get a good ez-up with sides first! Then think about drums or other smokers!
Pretty sure there is state income tax on top of that?
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:23 PM   #40
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Pretty sure there is state income tax on top of that?
It comes out at the end of the year.

Things just got put on hold anyways. They changed the schedule at the new job to where it doesn't work with the kids so now I am job hunting again... talk about stress. Called my old boss and trying to get my prior job back. I wish they would have told me prior to my first day that oh by the way you got to work until 5am now and start at 4pm. I was supposed to have a 1pm to 9pm shift with the possibility of working until 11pm. Best part was they posted the 1pm to 9pm shift on their bulletin board as available. Ughh. I think I just got the old bait and switch crap. Shortest time I ever held a job. I think I will be ok though since my old boss had me call the hr office and tell them to call him. He said he would call me back in a few days. I don't have a problem with the job itself but no one to watch the kids that early in the morning. Just extremely disappointed in the outcome. I was looking forward to it but what can you do? just roll with it. I been pumping out resumes all day. Just taking a break to try and take a breath as I was not expecting this at all.
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It comes out at the end of the year.

Things just got put on hold anyways. They changed the schedule at the new job to where it doesn't work with the kids so now I am job hunting again... talk about stress. Called my old boss and trying to get my prior job back. I wish they would have told me prior to my first day that oh by the way you got to work until 5am now and start at 4pm. I was supposed to have a 1pm to 9pm shift with the possibility of working until 11pm. Best part was they posted the 1pm to 9pm shift on their bulletin board as available. Ughh. I think I just got the old bait and switch crap. Shortest time I ever held a job. I think I will be ok though since my old boss had me call the hr office and tell them to call him. He said he would call me back in a few days. I don't have a problem with the job itself but no one to watch the kids that early in the morning. Just extremely disappointed in the outcome. I was looking forward to it but what can you do? just roll with it. I been pumping out resumes all day. Just taking a break to try and take a breath as I was not expecting this at all.
Sorry man. I wish you luck
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There is a lesson here.. Dont mortgage your future dipping into 401K.. Life can change very quickly
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It comes out at the end of the year.

Things just got put on hold anyways. They changed the schedule at the new job to where it doesn't work with the kids so now I am job hunting again... talk about stress. Called my old boss and trying to get my prior job back. I wish they would have told me prior to my first day that oh by the way you got to work until 5am now and start at 4pm. I was supposed to have a 1pm to 9pm shift with the possibility of working until 11pm. Best part was they posted the 1pm to 9pm shift on their bulletin board as available. Ughh. I think I just got the old bait and switch crap. Shortest time I ever held a job. I think I will be ok though since my old boss had me call the hr office and tell them to call him. He said he would call me back in a few days. I don't have a problem with the job itself but no one to watch the kids that early in the morning. Just extremely disappointed in the outcome. I was looking forward to it but what can you do? just roll with it. I been pumping out resumes all day. Just taking a break to try and take a breath as I was not expecting this at all.

Wow. Sorry to hear that. Hope you land something great real soon
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Wow. Sorry to hear that. Hope you land something great real soon
I have been through worse. It will be fine. Just in emergency mode. Just a spending freeze on anything non essential for now. My wife still has an income. Bills will be paid. Just applied for a bunch of jobs and called my old job to see if I can get it back. Told me they would let me know in a few days. I think they are hoping my accesses to certain computer systems havent been deleted yet. I left on good terms with them so I am hopeful. I never just quit until yesterday. Normally i would never do that but they lied to me and made it so I couldnt take care of my kids.
I hit up a few people I know that have gone to other govt contractors to see if they are hiring and could put in a good word for me.
God has never failed me. We always have a roof over our head and food in our bellies. It will be fine. Its not ideal but we will live.
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