Custom Fit Backwoods Run Dry Insert - Page 3

smokinit · 02-01-2013, 06:04 PM

Ok all the info for the first unit will be at the fabricators next week so hopefully I will have one to play with soon after.

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smokinit · 02-21-2013, 09:15 AM

Well we have been trying to find a light weight product to use inside the run dry insert that will give us the good heat sink properties we want. Tough thing indeed. How important would it be to you to have it light weight so in and out would be easier or use the a heavier material that would give the most benefit.

Longo1908 · 02-21-2013, 09:36 AM

I think price might outweigh practicality for me

EJHOFFY · 02-21-2013, 10:40 AM

In my Party after deciding there was no way I was going to deal with cleaning the water pan after every cook I started to experiment with different ways like sand, etc. What has worked best for me was that I wad up balls of aluminum foil and line the inside of the pan tightly. Then I cover the top with another piece of foil. I put the bottom grate on top of that and a water filled aluminum deep lasagna pan half way with water. Clean up is a snap, temps always steady, and plenty of moisture.

Ron_L · 02-21-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by smokinit

Well we have been trying to find a light weight product to use inside the run dry insert that will give us the good heat sink properties we want. Tough thing indeed. How important would it be to you to have it light weight so in and out would be easier or use the a heavier material that would give the most benefit.

What weight are you talking about. a few pounds in a 150+ pound smoker is nothing.

smokinit · 02-21-2013, 10:53 AM

Not worried about the overall weight but how heavy it is to take in and out if guys want to switch back and forth during a cook.

swamprb · 02-21-2013, 11:01 AM

Are any of you familiar with the WSM "Piedmont Pan" heat sink mod?

http://virtualweberbullet.com/piedmontpan.html

You take 2 Brinkmann Charcoal pans and nest them together with spacers between the lip and foil over and cook dry.

No reason I could see not doing the same with 2 sheets of aluminum or steel plates with spacers between them and setting them in the waterpan of any Backwoods.

I know in my Gater the heat deflector is too thin and could stand to be a little thicker steel.

just a thought.

smokinit · 02-21-2013, 11:05 AM

We are looking to remove the water pan totaly and just ad an insert in its palce

swamprb · 02-21-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by smokinit

We are looking to remove the water pan totaly and just ad an isert in it palce

I ain't feelin' that.

smokinit · 02-21-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swamprb

I ain't feelin' that.

Issues? This will be for removable pan styles only.A diffrent one for permanent pans.

swamprb · 02-21-2013, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokinit

Issues? This will be for removable pan styles only.A diffrent one for permanent pans.

Still listening....

sdbbq1234 · 03-03-2013, 10:55 AM

Ay updates on this?

Thanks for your efforts.

wallace

smokinit · 03-03-2013, 11:26 AM

Should have a working prototype soon it will be made in two parts so we can insert different materials into it to see what will give us the best heat sink properties but not way a ton. Thanks for checking though I should have something soon.

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sdbbq1234 · 03-27-2013, 07:14 PM

Bump on this topic.

Any updates?

Thanks!

wallace

smokinit · 03-27-2013, 07:33 PM

I will see where we are at the new smokers coming out have kind of taken over.

View Poll Results: How many of you run you Backwoods dry now or have wanted to.
Run Dry Now	6	18.18%
Have wanted to try it	16	48.48%
Just a passing thought	3	9.09%
Leave it alone its a Backwoods	8	24.24%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

02-01-2013, 06:04 PM	#31
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	Ok all the info for the first unit will be at the fabricators next week so hopefully I will have one to play with soon after. Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD __________________ I'MMM Back💪

02-21-2013, 09:15 AM	#32
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	Well we have been trying to find a light weight product to use inside the run dry insert that will give us the good heat sink properties we want. Tough thing indeed. How important would it be to you to have it light weight so in and out would be easier or use the a heavier material that would give the most benefit. __________________ I'MMM Back💪

02-21-2013, 09:36 AM	#33
Longo1908 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-14-13 Location: Staten Island, NY	I think price might outweigh practicality for me __________________ WSM / BWS Extended Party / KCBS

02-21-2013, 10:53 AM	#36
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	Not worried about the overall weight but how heavy it is to take in and out if guys want to switch back and forth during a cook. __________________ I'MMM Back💪

02-21-2013, 10:40 AM	#34
EJHOFFY Got Wood. Join Date: 01-30-13 Location: Morton Grove, IL	In my Party after deciding there was no way I was going to deal with cleaning the water pan after every cook I started to experiment with different ways like sand, etc. What has worked best for me was that I wad up balls of aluminum foil and line the inside of the pan tightly. Then I cover the top with another piece of foil. I put the bottom grate on top of that and a water filled aluminum deep lasagna pan half way with water. Clean up is a snap, temps always steady, and plenty of moisture.

02-21-2013, 11:01 AM	#37
swamprb somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-27-06 Location: Bothell WA	Are any of you familiar with the WSM "Piedmont Pan" heat sink mod? http://virtualweberbullet.com/piedmontpan.html You take 2 Brinkmann Charcoal pans and nest them together with spacers between the lip and foil over and cook dry. No reason I could see not doing the same with 2 sheets of aluminum or steel plates with spacers between them and setting them in the waterpan of any Backwoods. I know in my Gater the heat deflector is too thin and could stand to be a little thicker steel. just a thought. __________________ Brian - Left Hand Smoke BBQ PNWBA 2010 Team of the Year BGE's/WSM's/Pellet Pro WSM/BWS Gater/BDS Clones/Cookshack 008/Weber Performer w EZ-Que/Cajun Bandit/Rib-O-Lator Test Pilot/La Caja China/BBQ Guru/Weber 1000 RK Drum Coffee Roaster Follow Left Hand Smoke on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/pages/Left-H...462391?sk=wall KCBS CBJ/PNWBA CBJ www.pnwba.com

02-21-2013, 11:05 AM	#38
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	We are looking to remove the water pan totaly and just ad an insert in its palce __________________ I'MMM Back💪 Last edited by smokinit; 02-21-2013 at 11:44 AM..

03-03-2013, 10:55 AM	#42
sdbbq1234 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-11-10 Location: Northern VA	Ay updates on this? Thanks for your efforts. wallace __________________ wallace(Don) - Life Is Good But BBQ Is Better - BWS - Fat Boy - WSM 22.5 - A bunch on other outdoor cooking stuff. - KCBS CBJ# 58657 - MABA Member "Take luck!"

03-03-2013, 11:26 AM	#43
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	Re: Custom Fit Backwoods Run Dry Insert Should have a working prototype soon it will be made in two parts so we can insert different materials into it to see what will give us the best heat sink properties but not way a ton. Thanks for checking though I should have something soon. Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD __________________ I'MMM Back💪

03-27-2013, 07:14 PM	#44
sdbbq1234 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 02-11-10 Location: Northern VA	Bump on this topic. Any updates? Thanks! wallace __________________ wallace(Don) - Life Is Good But BBQ Is Better - BWS - Fat Boy - WSM 22.5 - A bunch on other outdoor cooking stuff. - KCBS CBJ# 58657 - MABA Member "Take luck!"

03-27-2013, 07:33 PM	#45
smokinit is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 03-16-07 Location: Coxsackie NY	I will see where we are at the new smokers coming out have kind of taken over. __________________ I'MMM Back💪