Who done it?

Smoothsmoke · 02-20-2013, 09:02 PM

Selling UDS with the red liner still in it!

http://modesto.craigslist.org/grd/3573714192.html

KotaChuk678 · 02-20-2013, 09:08 PM

Nice buy! How much?

Smoker101 · 02-20-2013, 09:08 PM

The bad red liner... o no that is not good

charrederhead · 02-20-2013, 09:20 PM

Wait. Is that a PBC w/ the optional extra hanging rod?

flyingbassman5 · 02-20-2013, 09:25 PM

Send that guy an email and tell him whats up. The fact he is selling these on CL and through a website is not cool.

Honestly its a poorly designed barrel too. No charcoal basket? Rebar holding up the grate? And really, a LINED barrel?? Bust this guy before he gets someone sick.

And after looking again, can you say PBC copy?? I don't mind someone building one to use for themselves, but wouldn't this be copyright infringement since he is selling them for profit??

Some people....

el_matt · 02-20-2013, 10:43 PM

There're quite a few guys around here, I'm not far from where that guy is selling from, that just dump charcoal in the bottom and cook. Doesn't matter if there is a liner or not. I bought a barrel from a guy that makes "UDS'", he was surprised that I'd take the time to remove the liner. Plus the concept of a charcoal basket was just a waste of his time.

Matt

mbshop · 02-20-2013, 11:29 PM

the bars are for hangin meat which is popular around the central valley. guys around here are selling red lined barrels. thats why i don't buy any.
http://visalia.craigslist.org/for/3624059615.html
http://visalia.craigslist.org/grd/3563843931.html

Neonnblack · 02-20-2013, 11:34 PM

The red liner is a bitch to get out, but not that bad. I also wouldnt think its copyright anything, i dont even think the UDS is patentable, plus you could never keep people from doing it, anyways.

Selling it like that is just messed up and im not surprised from modesto.

OTOH, my drums lid i forgot to take the liner off of, its covered in so much grease and goodness im not worried about it.

flyingbassman5 · 02-21-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Neonnblack

The red liner is a bitch to get out, but not that bad. I also wouldnt think its copyright anything, i dont even think the UDS is patentable, plus you could never keep people from doing it, anyways.

I'm not really talking the "copyright" of the UDS but more so the idea that this guy is basically building a 55 gal sized PBC copy and selling it for his own commercial gain. I mean, he has his own webpage to boot, so clearly he isn't just doing it as a one or two time thing to rake in a bit of cash.

There is no specific design to a UDS because it can be customized so much but when you are building and selling something that is oddly similar to someone else's trade marked product that is already on the market, foul play starts to be detected.

Idk..just seems fishy to me.

rocketmanray · 02-21-2013, 07:01 AM

From Neonnblack's post, "OTOH, my drums lid i forgot to take the liner off of, its covered in so much grease and goodness im not worried about it."

I’m not convinced that the “dreaded red liner” is dreaded and may even provide some additional protection from corrosion on the inside of the barrel....

Just sayin'...

RMR

Smoothsmoke · 02-21-2013, 10:13 AM

I wonder if this guy made this UDS before the PBC? Anyway, that's not why I posted this. I was just amazed that someone would sell a UDC with the liner in it.

---k--- · 02-21-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by flyingbassman5

I'm not really talking the "copyright" of the UDS but more so the idea that this guy is basically building a 55 gal sized PBC copy and selling it for his own commercial gain. I mean, he has his own webpage to boot, so clearly he isn't just doing it as a one or two time thing to rake in a bit of cash.

You realize that is exactly what gets some people's panties in a bunch over Noah and PBC. Drum cooking & hanging meat has been around for a long time. PBC didn't invent it. But they are making money off it.

I don't see any issues with selling them by anyone. It is taking a design that has been around a long time and selling them. PBC makes a nice product for the right price. Therefore i own one. Maybe they tweeked it to get it just right, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking they did something revolutionary here.

Anyway, red liner huh. Epoxy typically has a low melting point. I think this is different than zinc bolts. I wouldn't want to try it. But, i wouldn't be surprised to learn that it doesn't off gass untill like 800* and we've all been overreacting. That's what forums are good for.

also. We need Bigabyte to test it.

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Bluesman · 02-21-2013, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ---k---

Anyway, red liner huh. We need Bigabyte to test it.

I think he has..............

deguerre · 02-21-2013, 11:13 AM

Man. I HATE these CL threads. The State has a block on the website.

Lazybones · 02-21-2013, 11:16 AM

Not to start too big of a flame war, but isn't the PBC a knock-off of the UDS? Drums have been cooked on for ages, it's not like the PBC guys invented this amazing new form of cooking. While the guy doesn't need to be selling the drums with the liner, let's not rake him over the coals for making a buck just like the PBC guys.

02-20-2013, 09:02 PM	#1
Smoothsmoke Babbling Farker Join Date: 01-20-10 Location: Monterey, CA	Who done it? Selling UDS with the red liner still in it! http://modesto.craigslist.org/grd/3573714192.html __________________ Kamado Big Joe [COLOR=Red]Kamado Classic Joe Kamado Joe Jr. [/COLOR] A bunch of Webers

02-20-2013, 09:08 PM	#2
KotaChuk678 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-28-13 Location: White Plains, N.Y.	Nice buy! How much? __________________ bandera owner

02-20-2013, 09:08 PM	#3
Smoker101 On the road to being a farker Join Date: 06-09-11 Location: New Bloomfield, PA	Re: Who done it? The bad red liner... o no that is not good __________________ Black Thermapen, mini wsm, silver smokie joe , kamado

02-20-2013, 09:20 PM	#4
charrederhead Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-29-12 Location: Litchfield County, CT Name/Nickname : Pete	Wait. Is that a PBC w/ the optional extra hanging rod? __________________ hopelessly, helplessly, happily addicted to a shipload of Webers

02-20-2013, 09:25 PM	#5
flyingbassman5 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 11-26-12 Location: Saint Louis MO	Send that guy an email and tell him whats up. The fact he is selling these on CL and through a website is not cool. Honestly its a poorly designed barrel too. No charcoal basket? Rebar holding up the grate? And really, a LINED barrel?? Bust this guy before he gets someone sick. And after looking again, can you say PBC copy?? I don't mind someone building one to use for themselves, but wouldn't this be copyright infringement since he is selling them for profit?? Some people.... __________________ 18" OTS, 22" OTG, SJ Silver, Cimarron Offset, Coleman Bullet, PBC, UDS, QMaster ATC

02-20-2013, 10:43 PM	#6
el_matt Babbling Farker Join Date: 12-08-09 Location: Turlock, California	There're quite a few guys around here, I'm not far from where that guy is selling from, that just dump charcoal in the bottom and cook. Doesn't matter if there is a liner or not. I bought a barrel from a guy that makes "UDS'", he was surprised that I'd take the time to remove the liner. Plus the concept of a charcoal basket was just a waste of his time. Matt __________________ "Grandpa, you make the best meat, EVER!!"

02-20-2013, 11:29 PM	#7
mbshop Babbling Farker Join Date: 06-24-07 Location: visalia, ca	the bars are for hangin meat which is popular around the central valley. guys around here are selling red lined barrels. thats why i don't buy any. http://visalia.craigslist.org/for/3624059615.html http://visalia.craigslist.org/grd/3563843931.html __________________ george spam, can't live without it

02-20-2013, 11:34 PM	#8
Neonnblack Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 01-15-13 Location: Reno, NV	The red liner is a bitch to get out, but not that bad. I also wouldnt think its copyright anything, i dont even think the UDS is patentable, plus you could never keep people from doing it, anyways. Selling it like that is just messed up and im not surprised from modesto. OTOH, my drums lid i forgot to take the liner off of, its covered in so much grease and goodness im not worried about it.

02-21-2013, 07:01 AM	#10
rocketmanray Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 02-02-09 Location: Cocoa Beach, FL	From Neonnblack's post, "OTOH, my drums lid i forgot to take the liner off of, its covered in so much grease and goodness im not worried about it." I’m not convinced that the “dreaded red liner” is dreaded and may even provide some additional protection from corrosion on the inside of the barrel.... Just sayin'... RMR

02-21-2013, 10:13 AM	#11
Smoothsmoke Babbling Farker Join Date: 01-20-10 Location: Monterey, CA	I wonder if this guy made this UDS before the PBC? Anyway, that's not why I posted this. I was just amazed that someone would sell a UDC with the liner in it. __________________ Kamado Big Joe [COLOR=Red]Kamado Classic Joe Kamado Joe Jr. [/COLOR] A bunch of Webers

02-21-2013, 11:13 AM	#14
deguerre somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-15-09 Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL	Man. I HATE these CL threads. The State has a block on the website. __________________ Guerry [FONT=Book Antiqua]Pit Beeatch for Team Munchkin[/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][B]Avatar by Northwest BBQ [/B][/FONT]"...In nature, there are predators. I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility and murder..." Werner Herzog

02-21-2013, 11:16 AM	#15
Lazybones On the road to being a farker Join Date: 09-06-11 Location: D/FW, Texas	Not to start too big of a flame war, but isn't the PBC a knock-off of the UDS? Drums have been cooked on for ages, it's not like the PBC guys invented this amazing new form of cooking. While the guy doesn't need to be selling the drums with the liner, let's not rake him over the coals for making a buck just like the PBC guys. __________________ -Peter -Lazy Bones BBQ -Custom competition trailer with an offset and a cabinet. And a kettle or two.