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07-10-2019, 03:29 PM | #241 | ||
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One correction - The now defunct Sam's Club tournament DID have a requirement that the head cook be present. Perhaps this is where the misconception that the head cook was required to be present at all events came from.
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07-10-2019, 03:50 PM | #242 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 10-29-16
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If you want to make comps cheaper for many teams, this would be the way to do it. Don't dumb down the system to try to bring the occasional comp cook into the same category as someone out cooking 20+ contests. On a side note, the KCBS doesn't currently offer many benefits of being a member. There are a few that have been added, but outside of being able to be in a points chase, not too many reasons to join the organization. We talk about the value proposition and the declining membership. If you don't live near a Restaurant Depot or go to one even if you do, it is hard to justify paying to be a member. If you plan to cook a lot and want the opportunity to be recognized at the banquet, then joining is a must, otherwise, why join if you are only cooking a few contests a year? |
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07-10-2019, 04:11 PM | #243 | |
Babbling Farker
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07-10-2019, 04:15 PM | #244 |
Knows what a fatty is.
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07-10-2019, 04:23 PM | #245 |
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Join Date: 10-29-16
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BTW... I am a lifetime member, not that that matters. There just isn't much value in being a member. Why can't KCBS find meat partners to offer manufacturer coupons every year to teams for product? I mean, get with Prairie Fresh or Smithfield (even though they seem to be moving away from comp teams product) and provide a mailer to each team each year they pay their dues that includes some manufacturers coupons for meat. This can be done with specific brands or stores to provide a way to feel like you get something out of your membership.
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07-11-2019, 09:40 AM | #246 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 08-27-10
Location: Independence, MO
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I love where this conversation is going. I have a few ideas in my head I think I'll flesh out over the next couple days and try to post them here. The value proposition, combined with improved judging training/standards I think is the key to working back into a growth phase of KCBS.
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07-11-2019, 10:35 AM | #247 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 07-05-11
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So far the only benefits I see from my membership is voting for candidates that will ultimately not do what they said they will and regret voting for them............ and seeing my name a long ways down in the TOY standings. I'd say it's a waste of money but I invest $1000 in contests where KCBS manipulates tables by seating judges by scoring averages in turn creating more TODs than it prevents so the 35 bucks or whatever it is these days isn't much in the grand scheme of things.
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07-11-2019, 01:02 PM | #248 | |
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07-12-2019, 06:14 AM | #249 | |
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07-12-2019, 06:16 AM | #250 |
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Also here is an article about a local canceled contest and the reason it’s being cancelled by the hosts. I think this is good insight for KCBS to learn from: https://www.the-dispatch.com/news/20...-off-cancelled
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07-12-2019, 08:38 AM | #251 | |
Take a breath!
Join Date: 03-08-11
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It is only compounding when contests cost $1,000 and the average joe sees teams doing this 30-45x a year and they know they cannot compete so they lose interest after a few contests. People can complain about scoring - I am not a mathematician, but it always seems the cream rises to the top and the same teams are consistently winning - so to me, the judging is not that far off from where it should be. I am sure it can be improved but its giving overall consistent results. Focus on getting teams more involved, driving down costs and getting audience interaction and you'll have a winning formula. |
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07-12-2019, 02:13 PM | #252 | |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 07-05-11
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But the real statistics are that nearly %75 of judges only judge 2 or less a year. Good luck getting any reliable scoring data off of that. And I will continue to make noise about it just like everyone who got pissy after they went to chip draw did. Maybe stop with your own ignorance before you attempt to pin that on me.
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07-12-2019, 04:12 PM | #253 | |
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07-12-2019, 06:18 PM | #254 |
is One Chatty Farker
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I dont know how you can tell that. It's been in place for 2 weeks. When it was in place last year it wasn't like there was less 700s given out.
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07-15-2019, 03:18 PM | #255 |
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