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11-26-2012, 04:46 AM | #1 |
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27th Q: Yardbird vs. Lemon Peppered Pork Shoulder Roasts L&S 19H w/o foiling [w/ pr0n]
We just had to know, commercial or self-made rub, Plowboy's Yardbird vs. Lemon-Pepper.
Two about equally sized pork shoulder roasts without bone without speck with a total weight of 20.23 lbs to begin with A full charcoal ring with lemon lump and five small apple wood chunks for an overnighter The lemon peppered pork went onto the lower grate The Yardbird pork went onto the upper grate Together with a new batch of our Essence of Q Sauce Ready to go on Saturday evening at about 10 p.m. It was a cold night and a start with grate temp below 200°F in the first hours, this is what it looked like 14 hours later with a grate temp of about 250°F and IT 175°F Since I was not in the mood to refill charcoal, I put the two roasts into the oven at 225°F. I probed at IT 196°F, the Thermapen went in like butter in some spots, but still a little tough in other spots, so I took it to IT 203°, which was reached after a total of about 19 hours. The result: The self-made pita bread for our pulled pork sandwiches The very best pulled pork sandwiches I ever had so far, with all components made to perfection: the crispy pulled pork sauced with our 'Essence of Q' with yogurt based coleslaw without mayonnaise and the pita bread => heavenly dinner to die for! And of course the low carb variation for the wife: pure pulled pork with coleslaw on a plate So how was the comparison of Yardbird vs. Lemon-Pepper? The self-made lemon-pepper rub won big time no questions asked! The commercial Yardbird rub is nice, but we just don't get the hang of it, maybe it really is just best used on poultry, I don't know. We made our own rubs right from the very beginning, and they cover the flavor profiles we like just fine. The self-made lemon-pepper is the uber-winner hands down, the smell and taste of fresh lemon zest on four-peppers-blend can drive you ! The overall result of such a 19 hours L&S cook without foiling compared to H&F with foiling nevertheless is in favor of H&F. On one hand L&S produced the best bark we ever had, with unbelievably good pieces of fatty pork candy crunch, on the other hand most of the meat was just not juicy enough. Is it really impossible to have it both, juicy meat and crunchy bark??? Considering my experience with L&S so far the results just always get too dry. Should I try again H&F with foiling and finishing unfoiled over high heat for re-crisping?
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11-26-2012, 04:59 AM | #2 |
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Lunchtime!
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11-26-2012, 05:01 AM | #3 |
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11-26-2012, 09:08 AM | #4 |
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Looks great...very nice pic's.
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11-26-2012, 09:28 AM | #5 |
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Thanks for sharing your "test", looks mighty tasty!
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11-26-2012, 10:01 AM | #6 |
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You wanna share that lemon pepper recipe??
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11-26-2012, 12:02 PM | #7 |
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That looks great ! Did you follow that recipe I found a while ago ?
When doing pork L&S with this rub, I use more of the rub, really cover it up good. If you think it is too much, add a bit more. If you would taste just the bark, it tastes like too much, but since you will be pulling it and mixing it altogether, it balances out perfectly. But then again, there is a lot of fun in making your own rub and grinding fresh herbs and spices. Looking forward to see more of your Q ! Edit: Lemon-pepper link but it is in German... |
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11-26-2012, 12:34 PM | #8 |
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Page 2 is in English. http://www.foolforfood.de/index.php/...pfeffer?page=2
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11-26-2012, 12:48 PM | #9 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
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Looks fantastic!!
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11-27-2012, 11:37 AM | #10 |
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My lemon pepper rub was inspired by the pepper thread, and really is just simple and basic:
It indeed looks, smells and tastes fantastic, but my wife is so disappointed, because she wants to eat it pure without sauce and specially reheated most parts are that dry she can barely eat it. So the challenge is now to produce a moist pork product with crispy bark next weekend, otherwise I'll have to pause on pork (which is what the wife demands). Now the next try will be with two pork necks without bone without speck (because there is a special offer this week), and as procedure I'll go H&F with foiling in apple juice at IT 165°F till IT 200°F and then recrisping the bark without foil for another half hour to an hour. If anybody has some thoughts on this plan, please tell!
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12-01-2012, 01:38 PM | #11 |
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Well, that massive amount of pork lasted till today, although we even gave some of it to our co-workers.
These are the last impressions of such pork-goodness: Two emperor buns filled with sauted pork, our 'Essense of Q' sauce and fresh red onion for me And a nice low-carb salad with pork and red onion for the wife Next cook is scheduled for tomorrow, two boneless pork necks without speck are already awaiting their destiny in our fridge. I'll keep you posted.
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12-02-2012, 07:45 AM | #12 |
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Outstanding!
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12-02-2012, 08:27 AM | #13 |
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I think from my one try on boneless pork shoulder. Next time I will tie the thing up with some kind of twine, the various sliced parts from deboning as you have seen can drastically overcook. I think tying it up might help those surgically wounded parts cook more evenly :-).
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12-02-2012, 08:31 AM | #14 | |
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