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Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, equipment and outdoor cookin' . ** Other cooking techniques are welcomed for when your cookin' in the kitchen. Post your hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures, but stay on topic and watch for that hijacking. |
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12-26-2012, 01:56 PM | #1 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 07-02-10
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Pitmaker safe
I smoked up some wings and a roast beef for Christmas dinner. I was done by 4 pm, I emptied the coals out at around 5:30- 6:00 and when At 11:30 I went to put the pit away the internal temp was still at 225 degrees and the outside temp was 35 degrees. You have to love insulated smokers.
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12-26-2012, 05:11 PM | #2 |
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Sounds like you like your Safe. I have a buddy looking at one, but it seems like I see more threads about them being difficult to control than positive threads.
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12-26-2012, 07:07 PM | #3 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 07-14-11
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--K-- I've seen a lot of the same post/threads about controlling a Safe or Vault. Being that these smoker are very efficient, the pit operator(s) needs to be patient during thier "learning curve". Once you've re-learned air/fuel management on these pits, you'll never want to cook on anything else.
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12-26-2012, 07:36 PM | #4 |
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I have not had a temp control issue. I have had it for about 7 months. I find it a lot easier to cook on then my old stick burner [ Klose ] like anything new you have to learn its peculiarities. Oh and yes I do like it alot
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12-27-2012, 05:59 PM | #5 |
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Thanks for the response.
And how long does it normally burn for on a single load of charcoal. That is the other odd thing I read about all the insulated vertical smokers. It seems like some people report refueling every 6 hours and others say they go 12+ hours. I really really like the fact that my drum can go around 15 - 16 hours on a load of fuel. I've developed my cook methods to take 12 hours for the typical butt/brisket so I can put it on around 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm and have it perfect for lunch the next day. Having to wake up and refuel early in the morning would make me really resent my smoker.
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12-28-2012, 10:03 AM | #6 |
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I have gone for about 10 hours on a full basket but thats not to say I couldn't have gone longer its just that I was done with my cook.
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12-28-2012, 11:40 AM | #7 |
Got Wood.
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It's been my experience that if you cook using the water pan you get closer to the 6 hour mark with a single loading. Keep in mind that meat loading is also a large factor in this, as well as cook temp. When you cook dry, and you're not heating up all that water, your cook times can go 12-14+ hours on a single loading. Charcoal/wood arrangement is also a consideration. I use a horseshoe shape when I cook, with great results.ImageUploadedByTapatalk1356716386.447573.jpg
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12-28-2012, 02:29 PM | #8 |
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That is an interesting photo. I've never seen anyone use basically all wood like that. Is that how you typically smoke?
And, I just don't understand why the vertical pit manufacturers don't make bigger fire boxes. Just make them 2" taller is all I ask.
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12-28-2012, 02:58 PM | #9 | |
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They are also winning a bunch of championships on the circuit. Pitmaker Safes and Vaults (along with Jambo) are probably the hottest smokers on the competition circuit right now. There's a reason for that. As far as build quality, they are without peer.
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12-28-2012, 06:57 PM | #10 |
Got Wood.
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Good to hear you're enjoying your safe Libertarian :)
---K--- , I've grown to like this loading. There is a thin layer of lump charcoal under those wood chunks. I light the corner on the lower right side. close it up and let the CyberQ handle the rest. I have been thinking about a 100% wood loading, but have not had the time to try it yet. I also thought a 2" deeper charcoal basket would be great, but the Safe and the Vault don't need it in all honesty. They are very efficient smokers and the baskets are plenty big enough. |
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12-30-2012, 05:26 PM | #11 |
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Sheriff-the vault has a much larger charcaol box allowing Vault owners to snake the charcoal around. It is much harder to do that in a Safe do to the size. I would love to be able to line my charcoal box like you have. I have had my share of difficulties with my safe, but was in Houston a few weeks ago and Victor gave me some pointers which have helped quite a bit. One of which is to use charcoal briquettes which is against my years of praising lump charcoal. Basically I havfound that I preheat my Safe with my flame thrower to the temp I want to cook at. Then stack charcoal around the edges starting 4 wide ending with th briquettes being 2 wide. Throw a couple long pieces of wood on the top of the charcoal and let er rip. Temp stays pretty much where I want it if it does get a little warm I throw some water in the pan and it will bring the temp down.
K-Sorry for not getting back to you, but after my visit to Pitmaker, I am probably just going to keep my Safe. You guys are more than welcome to take a look at it if you havent seen one in person. |
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12-31-2012, 11:41 AM | #12 | |
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12-31-2012, 11:43 AM | #13 | |
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12-31-2012, 12:49 PM | #14 |
is one Smokin' Farker
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I also prefer briquettes for the same reasons mentioned by Libertarian.
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12-31-2012, 03:04 PM | #15 | |
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I would love to see one in person and may take you up on that offer one of these days. I'll pm you if I ever have time and we'll see what we can do.
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