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11-09-2011, 09:47 PM | #8866 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 08-23-10
Location: Austin Texas
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^^^Thats a good idea it does make sense and a easy fix if it works, I use a fire place poker and hit the bottom lip of the drum maybe ever hour or so
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11-09-2011, 10:18 PM | #8867 | |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 09-29-11
Location: Alexandria VA
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I currently use the strainer basket out of a turkey fryer with the bottom cut off and attached to a grate. So far no issues going 6 hours or so. If I can ever find a Home Depot with someone who actually knows what expanded metal is I would make a 'real' basket, but until then...........
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11-10-2011, 06:51 AM | #8868 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 08-04-10
Location: New Palestine IN
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I give my drum a gentle rattle every hour or so to clear the ash from the coals. Works great and keeps even temp for hours. :)
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11-10-2011, 09:09 AM | #8869 | ||
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 11-26-10
Location: Somewhere, CT
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TASTE LIKE ASHTRAY? DON'T USE HARDWOOD LUMP COALS FOR SMOKING. |
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11-10-2011, 09:22 AM | #8870 |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 11-26-10
Location: Somewhere, CT
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What color is your smoke?
Blue/white/etc... this depends on what types of wood you are using. Each wood has its own color, smell and flavor of smoke it produces. It also depends on the amount of wood, and it depends on the air flow. Plus, it also depends on the temperature you're at. :) Is that enough variables? If you have a lot of airflow, you'll be burning more fuel and typically having a whiter smoke. If you are running it kind of hot, you certainly would have some white smoke. These are not bad things; depends what you are trying to do. My smokers do both white and blue smoke depending on how I configure them and what I'm burning. But not all white smoke is good. :) The smoke from hardwood lump coals smoldering is nasty. I haven't heard feedback on how to use them for smoking, but I suspect that you have to burn them to the point of getting white before putting them into the smoker. However that makes things difficult in a UDS. Personally I prefer to have mine just barely ooze out the smoke, while having enough air flow to maintain that for a whole day. I have done it many times where I leave it overnight and wake up in the morning to my temp gauge reading: 225 :) The amount of air flow is not just based on size of holes but positioning and configuration of the intakes and exhaust. The typical 2inch bung hole produces a great draft, but you'll burn a bit more fuel and have a whiter smoke. If you have eight 2inch holes drilled in the lid, that is still the same circular area as a single 2inch hole, but the air flow is not shooting straight out. This causes for less fuel burn, not as white of a smoke, less smoke coming out, and possibly more moisture inside the cooker. I also have configurations where I have pipes coming out the sides of the barrel near the top. This works out well too. Always trying to keep in range of the circular area equal to the 2inch hole. All this is from my experience in using the smokers I have for the past year and a half. I'm sure someone will come back with "mine is not doing that". |
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11-10-2011, 09:41 AM | #8871 |
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Join Date: 09-29-11
Location: Alexandria VA
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^^^^ Valid points. I have also seen, and tasted more than once, extremely bitter taste because folks use wayyyyy to much smoke.
Like rubs, sometimes too much is just that, too much. You can't remove the spices or smoke once it's in the meat.
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11-10-2011, 12:04 PM | #8872 |
On the road to being a farker
Join Date: 01-31-09
Location: Austin, Texas
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I use a guru - works great, super lazy. Really like it for starting the burn, does not take the extra time to stabalize that the basic UDS does. I have managed a 1am start up in under 5 minutes. Hell, one time I did it in probably 2 (but that was not intended)
A single blower on the side will cause a very uneven burn in your coals. It will probably cook fine - but looks terrible... Likewise, a single vent on top will cause uneven temps (at least if you are cooking on the hot side). When I cook hot, I either rotate my food, or the lid. I like having the elivated smoke stack as my lid holds water. If you use a Weber lid, ymmv. If you search my posts - I ultimately rebuilt mine and put a false bottom in the drum with a bottom blower. It diffuses the blow 360 around the edge of the drum. Like the Guru, it is overkill - but works quite well. |
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11-11-2011, 02:29 AM | #8873 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-11-06
Location: Norco, Ca.
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Did you get the temp up and stable before you put chicken on? What type of temp gauge? Calibrated? I have never had to cook chicken for 5-6 hours. Go back and read about basic builds, proven and work. A few mentioned "Jiggler rods" The original is a Thirdeye invention used to put through air intakes and jiggle fire basket or poke through fire grate on Eggs. I usually kick my drum a few taps after 4 hours and before temp adjustments. Do it with lid on or ash will swirl and give your grub unwanted seasoning. Especially if you use Rancher. |
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11-13-2011, 08:45 AM | #8874 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 10-17-11
Location: Gardendale Alabama
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Well I'm now 300 pages and 4500 posts in on this "Mother Of All Threads" I'm not stopping till i'm through! LMAO
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11-13-2011, 08:14 PM | #8875 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 11-05-11
Location: lakeland, fl
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Thank you gentlemen!
I was just about to go out and lay down $400 for wsm 22.5 when i ran across this forum. Started on page 1 and read maybe the 1st hundred or so pages. Found a drum at a local drum mfg friday...brand new! Did have the dreaded red liner. But it was a special run 60 gallon drum...38" tall. And my webber kettle lid fit snuggly when i set on. (took it with me thanks to ya'lls advice) The salesmen did advize me it only had a 22 ga bottom. More on that in a min.
So took it home and and drilled the 4 1 inch intake holes, filled it with seasoned oak and fired it off. Took the leaf blower and directed the air stream in one of the intake holes. HOLY COW BATMAN!!! It burned all the paint and liner off in maybe half an hour. But the oak burned on for a couple hours. Go out next morning to get started removing rest of liner and discover 2 things. 1st almost all the liner is gone....rubbed a patch of what was left with my finger and it came off!! so got the water hose and a rag and washed the rest out!! COOL! 2nd thing i discovered was the ultra hi temps i got with the leaf blower melted the bottom of my drum in couple places. Several nice holes! Undaunted...off to home depot for required parts and hardware. Following Norcos KISS diagram and pics, me and buddly put it together in an hour or so...no welding. Fire basket is (was) a painted wire basket from home depot. burned it off by completely filling with self start charcoal and letting it burn out. the wire survived the fire and if there was anything harmful about it its gone now!! SO time to season and test run!!! Half a bag of unlit king blue and about 2 thirds a chimney ashed over. cruised up to 450 with kettle lid on and all four holes open. Closed off 2 holes and other 2 other shut down about 2/3rds. using sheet magnets. When it cooled down some, threw on some leg quarters and uncle johns mild. Turned out great!!! crispy skin. One friend said it was like eating fried chicken!!! Today....2 sides of spares!! Again...following the KISS theory, rubbed them down with cavenders and when the drum was stable at about 275 i threw them on and played with the air holes a bit and went inside for a couple beers. checked 1 hour later and steady @250. didnt open lid. @2 hours i turned them over. Beautiful!! Gave the drum a shake (lid on) to settle ashes and back inside for a couple more beers!! @4hrs gave them the bend test and called them done. Results = 2 sides of the best spare ribs i have ever eat!! Great bark on the outside....but even the parts that r usually chewy under the bark were moist and tender!! Smeared cattlemens carolina tangy sauce on a slice of white bread...put a rib in it and jimminy!!! Heaven. So once again....thanks Norco, bigmista and every body else who posted their ideas and designs. i Do solemly swear to read the remaining 400+ pages. To many great ideas not to! |
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11-13-2011, 09:18 PM | #8876 |
Found some matches.
Join Date: 08-19-09
Location: topeka kansas
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Where to place the thermo
Putting the finishing touches on my UDS, and was wondering where is a good place to locate the thermometer.
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11-13-2011, 09:31 PM | #8877 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 06-03-10
Location: Shawnee, KS
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What kind of thermometer? If using the turkey thermo option I would have a port just under each rack so you can monitor temps at the different levels. If just doing one side mounted thermo then it depends. Because it is more permanent, you also need to describe the rest of your setup. I would say to mount it just under the lowest rack as a safe place.
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11-14-2011, 04:33 AM | #8878 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 08-29-11
Location: Osage, IA
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I have 2 digital probes on mine, 1 for each grate level or 1 in the center and 1 at the edge when i only use 1 grate. The probe wires both run through the same small hole located between the 2 grate levels. I drilled a hole through a small block of wood which the probe goes through and then it just rests on the grate.
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11-15-2011, 04:44 PM | #8879 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 04-22-08
Location: Edmond, OK
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I built my first drum a few weeks ago as well I have just started using lump. I have been fighting bad smoke and temp swings everytime I use the drum. I read this yesturday, I today I did a test burn with only bricketts. WOW. FINNALLY thin blue smoke and stable temps I was about to give my drum away, but I think I'll keep it a little longer now. No more lump in my drum. Thanks[/QUOTE] Not sure why that happened? I exclusively use Royal Oak lump in my drums and grills for the last 5 years and never have any issue with temps of over-smudging. I've run it for 16 hours and still had quite a bit of charcoal left. Not much ash since there's no filler or coal in it either. |
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11-16-2011, 08:06 AM | #8880 | |
Knows what a fatty is.
Join Date: 11-26-10
Location: Somewhere, CT
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Have you ever tried using just plain charcoal briquettes? |
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