Comp Generators

DMDon · Oct 12, 2009

We are looking to upgrade our generator. Does anybody use the Honda EM7000? What do you think of it? is it quiet? What others are you using? I think we would need 30 amp or 3000 watts continous, (to run a/c, refridge, and lights) and be quiet. I don't know much about electicity show what are some recomendations.

thenewguy · Oct 12, 2009

For ease of storage and saving my back, I use 2 honda 2000i's. Hook them parallel and it gives you 4000 watts and it's a heck of a lot easier to lug around than a 3000i.
If you want to be a big dog, get a 6000-you'll be able to run the campground-well almost.
During comps, I use just 1 2000i to run the A/C in the m/h, it does the job,but it's nice to have too much power.

widespread · Oct 12, 2009

I use 2 EU2000's also, with an extended run fuel tank. Runs everything in the trailer all weekend and very quiet.

Balls Casten · Oct 12, 2009

Geesh Don, you act like you've got some new BBQ money burning a hole in your pocket.

I'm waffeling on this as well, we have a 2000i. And wondering if we should go to the 3000, or another 2000 parallel.

Don you're welcome to borrow my 2000 and give it a try if your like.

Ron_L · Oct 12, 2009

What are you going to be running off of the generator? I don't know if the Honda EM7000 has an inverter. If you are running any ind of electronics (PC, TV, Radio, future FEC :-D) you want a generator with an inverter. Also, do you need that much power? Honda has a power estimator that may help figure out your needs...

http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/generators/content.aspx?asset=gg_wattage

As far as noise, the EM7000 is rated at 69db. For comparison the EU6500iS is rated at 52db and 1/4 load and 60dB at full load. I was next to Scottie this past weekend and he uses an EU6500iS and 90% of the time I couldn't even tell it was running. Once in a while it would kick up to high and then I could hear it. Even though another 9 dB doesn't sound like much, the dB scale is logarithmic, so 9dB is a big jump in sound level.

Jorge · Oct 12, 2009

To add more confusion... I like the idea of running two generators vs. one. Redundancy is a good thing sometimes. If you lose one you may have to make some decisions, but that's a lot better than being screwed if you lose THE one.

Scottie · Oct 12, 2009

Ron_L said:
As far as noise, the EM7000 is rated at 69db. For comparison the EU6500iS is rated at 52db and 1/4 load and 60dB at full load. I was next to Scottie this past weekend and he uses an EU6500iS and 90% of the time I couldn't even tell it was running. Once in a while it would kick up to high and then I could hear it. Even though another 9 dB doesn't sound like much, the dB scale is logarithmic, so 9dB is a big jump in sound level.

When it would kick to "high" (a real misnomer...) that was from me cranking up my microwave to re-heat my money muscle....

I own a Honda 3000 and the Honda 6500. This one that you are talking about Don, doesn't sound like it has the invertor and as Ron says, I would spend the extra money to cover your electronics...

Plowboy · Oct 12, 2009

I've been very happy with my Kipor 3000's at a fraction of the price of the Honda's. Been running successfully for 3+ years. They are safe for electronics, too. Ran one this past weekend and someone thought my truck was idling. Gotta love these uber quiet gensets.

Bbq Bubba · Oct 12, 2009

Great info, thanks!

Plowboy said:
I've been very happy with my Kipor 3000's at a fraction of the price of the Honda's. Been running successfully for 3+ years. They are safe for electronics, too. Ran one this past weekend and someone thought my truck was idling. Gotta love these uber quiet gensets.

Scottie · Oct 12, 2009

Plowboy said:
I've been very happy with my Kipor 3000's at a fraction of the price of the Honda's. Been running successfully for 3+ years. They are safe for electronics, too. Ran one this past weekend and someone thought my truck was idling. Gotta love these uber quiet gensets.

The only really thing bad I have heard about them is if something was to break and you needed service... I heard that it is not good....

Plowboy · Oct 12, 2009

Scottie said:
The only really thing bad I have heard about them is if something was to break and you needed service... I heard that it is not good....

That was true a couple of years ago. There are service centers and parts available in the US now. For $1000, it is worth the risk to me.

Ron_L · Oct 12, 2009

Scottie said:
When it would kick to "high" (a real misnomer...) that was from me cranking up my microwave to re-heat my money muscle....

Yeah... I wasn't sure what to call it. Full throttle? Either way, I could hear it but it didn't impair conversations, even 15 feet away.

Plowboy said:
I've been very happy with my Kipor 3000's at a fraction of the price of the Honda's. Been running successfully for 3+ years. They are safe for electronics, too. Ran one this past weekend and someone thought my truck was idling. Gotta love these uber quiet gensets.

Plowboy said:
That was true a couple of years ago. There are service centers and parts available in the US now. For $1000, it is worth the risk to me.

We were next to Todd at Shannon and his Kipor was also very quiet. I went with a Honda because i couldn't find anyone local who handled Kipor. if there was a local dealer I probably would have gone that way.

DMDon · Oct 12, 2009

Scottie said:
When it would kick to "high" (a real misnomer...) that was from me cranking up my microwave to re-heat my money muscle....

I own a Honda 3000 and the Honda 6500. This one that you are talking about Don, doesn't sound like it has the invertor and as Ron says, I would spend the extra money to cover your electronics...

Is that before or after you add the MSG.

BBQ_Mayor · Oct 12, 2009

Good god Don!

. What you running in that camper? A Welder?

I'd agree with the 2 2000i's. I've heard that is the way to go for more power. But what would I know, I don't have one either.

Buster Dog BBQ · Oct 12, 2009

Don, I thought that was the inverter one that I sent to Bob. Seemed like a good price if it was. Doesnt sound like that is the case.

I have the Kipor 3000 and it works pretty nice. One thing that I did not like about it was at a contest I had 3 guys hooked up and at 5am it shut down from low oil. My fault for not checking it but it was only the second overnight use I had from it, so I wasnt expecting that. The oil area is burried in the engine and if you dont have a long thin funnel it is kind if hard to reach. I think the Honda is on the side.

But saying that, for no more use than it gets, The $500+ price savings was worth it to me.

Scottie · Oct 12, 2009

DMDon said:
Is that before or after you add the MSG.

Man, why do you think my RV smells like a Chinese Carryout? It's that 55 gallon drum of MSG that I have. That's how we roll.... :shock:

Ron_L · Oct 12, 2009

No wonder I was craving egg rolls when we got home! :-D

monty3777 · Oct 12, 2009

Buster Dog BBQ said:
Don, I thought that was the inverter one that I sent to Bob. Seemed like a good price if it was. Doesnt sound like that is the case.

I have the Kipor 3000 and it works pretty nice. One thing that I did not like about it was at a contest I had 3 guys hooked up and at 5am it shut down from low oil. My fault for not checking it but it was only the second overnight use I had from it, so I wasnt expecting that. The oil area is burried in the engine and if you dont have a long thin funnel it is kind if hard to reach. I think the Honda is on the side.

But saying that, for no more use than it gets, The $500+ price savings was worth it to me.

I was one of the guys hooked up to that Kipor and I was real surprised how much it could take and how quiet it was. I don't have a generator but after Nevada I was sold on the Kipor.

thenewguy · Oct 12, 2009

FYI, if anyone's interested about getting a Honda, I can highly recommend an internet store that had my 2000i's discounted enough that I couldn't even buy them locally! They sell ton's to RV guys.

Buster Dog BBQ · Oct 12, 2009

thenewguy said:
FYI, if anyone's interested about getting a Honda, I can highly recommend an internet store that had my 2000i's discounted enough that I couldn't even buy them locally! They sell ton's to RV guys.

Can you PM that to me or post it here?

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