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Old 11-20-2020, 08:12 PM   #1
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Default Lets Beat a Dead Horse...charcoal grill options...PK360????`

So, I want a new grill...what do you all think?

This will be for strictly grilling...I have w workhorse 1975 pit on order...plan to do all ribs, butts, brisket, whole and spatched chickens on this...most likely all reverse sear steaks as well as I got the cowboy option

I currently haver a M Grills M1 and love it as its my do everything cooker (smoking and grilling) but there are limitations on it ( cooking space, firebox size, ability to control lower temps)... and I also have a camp chef flat top grill for smash burgers and stir fry etc. I have been down the pellet road with Yoder and Memphis also...

I also have a weber performer at the lake with a Slow N Sear that I like..cant beat the wings on it, but it has limitations as to the high heat needed to sear IMO as well as real estate when using the SLow N Sear...I have also owned primo oval xl for several years and have various weber smokey joes and akorn Jr's for the camper....

SO, does it make sense to pick up a PK 360 to satisfy my quick grilling needs for the house? I have never used a PK360 before....seems like there isnt much room between the coals and grate, but then again, I dont think my weber 22 is all that for searing either ( I lOVE the thought of aluminum and minimal maintenance on the PK though), but is performance as a griller truly any better than a weber? And as much as I am NOT a Weber Fan Boy, the ash cleanout, etc is truly better than anything out there...although their grates suck something terrible IMO...

So, bottom line, get another weber (26 likely as family of 4), or a PK360 or other that I am not thinking of for grilling duties?
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Old 11-20-2020, 08:20 PM   #2
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I think I am one of the few that got a kettle and wasn't crazy about it. I also got a PKTX and it was a different story. I have been cooking on that rascal non stop since I bought it. Liked it so much I have considered getting the 360 even though I don't need the extra space. PK's are solid units that will last a lifetime. Don't foresee myself being without a PK now.
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Old 11-20-2020, 09:25 PM   #3
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Love mine works better without a charcoal basket if you decide to get one.
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PK Grills are awesome. I have a PKTX Kinda wish I had the 360 for easier air flow adjustments, but I have 3 other smoker grills so I will stick with what I have.
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How big of a grill ya looking for? Check out Hellrazr out of Canadia. Just launched, adding distributors weekly. Looks like a kick ass little grill. Their chimeny starter looks bad ass too. Both on the expensive side for the size. But looks like a steak cooking machine.

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Old 11-20-2020, 10:31 PM   #6
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Is your M1 big enough for you when doing indirect grilling? Keep in mind that the PK 360 will be over 100 sq” smaller. That is the only thing that has kept me from buying a PK... the size. The moment I see a PK 500+ released, my credit card will be out of my pocket lickity split. I’ve mentioned it before, but my favorite charcoal grill to date has been the Weber 26 w/ SnS.
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How big of a grill ya looking for? Check out Hellrazr out of Canadia. Just launched, adding distributors weekly. Looks like a kick ass little grill. Their chimeny starter looks bad ass too. Both on the expensive side for the size. But looks like a steak cooking machine.

https://hellrazroutdoorcooking.com/


Hmm...can’t read French!


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Old 11-20-2020, 10:40 PM   #8
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Why not get the 26" Weber? It comes standard with a SS cook grate and has the real estate you're looking for.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:42 PM   #9
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Love mine works better without a charcoal basket if you decide to get one.
Thanks! I have read the pk basket might hinder airflow

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I think I am one of the few that got a kettle and wasn't crazy about it. I also got a PKTX and it was a different story. I have been cooking on that rascal non stop since I bought it. Liked it so much I have considered getting the 360 even though I don't need the extra space. PK's are solid units that will last a lifetime. Don't foresee myself being without a PK now.

I’m kind of with you. I haven’t been crazy about my weber performer although I love the wings it produces with the vortex. I have never ever thought it Sears as well as my old kamados did

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Is your M1 big enough for you when doing indirect grilling? Keep in mind that the PK 360 will be over 100 sq” smaller. That is the only thing that has kept me from buying a PK... the size. The moment I see a PK 500+ released, my credit card will be out of my pocket lickity split. I’ve mentioned it before, but my favorite charcoal grill to date has been the Weber 26 w/ SnS.

You sir have hit the nail on the head! Cooking indirect the M1 is about the right size for us. The pk360 might be a little cramped?? I agree, if there was a pk500, this wouldn’t be a discussion...I would of likely already ordered one:). One thing the M1 has challenges with is tight temp control...once temps get up there it’s hard to reign them in as even choking it down has limited effect. I cooked sausage tonight over lump on my akorn kamado and had much much better temp control compared to the m1 (deck was stained today so limited options on it today)

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PK Grills are awesome. I have a PKTX Kinda wish I had the 360 for easier air flow adjustments, but I have 3 other smoker grills so I will stick with what I have.

Thanks for sharing. I think I’m enamored with the aluminum of the PK[emoji3]




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Also, why can’t they make a 26” performer?!?!?! :(


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The Weber will get plenty hot, you just need lots of fuel and to crack the lid a bit. There is something magical about the shape, such nice even heat.
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A few people here have made their own. Seems like you have the resources to get one made as well ( = I want to get one made, but since it's almost always just the two of us, it doesn't seem necessary.
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A few people here have made their own. Seems like you have the resources to get one made as well ( = I want to get one made, but since it's almost always just the two of us, it doesn't seem necessary.


Maybe a local metal worker/welder?

I could also wait until the new summit kamado comes out. 24” splits the difference between a kettle and the 26, is larger than the PK360, is deeper than the kettles (which I like for grilling) and seems like it would be sturdy. Should be out soon I think?


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Maybe a local metal worker/welder?

I could also wait until the new summit kamado comes out. 24” splits the difference between a kettle and the 26, is larger than the PK360, is deeper than the kettles (which I like for grilling) and seems like it would be sturdy. Should be out soon I think?


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I think the new WSCG would be a fantastic choice for what you’re looking for... 24” is plenty big for most family/friends type cooking. Either that or ask Santa for a modest 500 sq” Kalamazoo... :)

https://kalamazoogourmet.com/product...id-fire-grill/
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What version of the M1 do you have? Mine is the 2019 version and is very responsive to vent changes to bring up or down the temps.
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