Ugly Drum Smoker - Page 169

Pua'a Kuka · 03-03-2009, 02:02 PM

That is exactly what I have, so my materials list is getting smaller by the hour

2K1TJ · 03-03-2009, 06:56 PM

Just finishing up my new UDS. I have a question that I haven't seen mentioned.

Do you remove the gasket around the drum lid? I know it'll seal better with it, but I'm afraid it'll melt and/or give off gasses or fumes from heating up.

Norcoredneck · 03-03-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2K1TJ

Just finishing up my new UDS. I have a question that I haven't seen mentioned.

Do you remove the gasket around the drum lid? I know it'll seal better with it, but I'm afraid it'll melt and/or give off gasses or fumes from heating up.

Definately. Some come out easily, some not. If you have difficulty heat it a little, use a toothbrush type wire brush followed by WD40 and a little brushing and wash with a degreaser, or handful of Tide in warm water.

2K1TJ · 03-03-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norcoredneck

Definately. Some come out easily, some not. If you have difficulty heat it a little, use a toothbrush type wire brush followed by WD40 and a little brushing and wash with a degreaser, or handful of Tide in warm water.

Thanks.

Barbarian · 03-03-2009, 08:14 PM

The redneck is correct, it works great.

Bbq Bubba · 03-03-2009, 08:20 PM

Yup, remove the gasket, it actually seals better without.

jcinadr · 03-04-2009, 10:10 AM

My uds is still a work in process - but am getting closer to pictures. My fire basket is 12"x48" of expanded mesh, with a 14" diameter expanded mesh grate 3" from the bottom.

Initially I used the 18" el cheapo table top grill for an an ash pan. It worked, but I felt it was keeping my temperature down. I switched to a 16" commercial pizzia pan this weekend. It is much thicker/stronger than the el cheapo grill.

Temp was marginally better - but was working with minimal charcoal (only had sausage and abt's on the grill. Will run a full test again next smoking.

Anyway, I really liked the Acemart pizzia pan - it was about $8 and about 3/32 thick.

Pua'a Kuka · 03-04-2009, 10:58 PM

Trying to do this build on the cheap. I was able to score a free King Cook thermometer for frying, can I use this in my barrel?, or do I need to use the types that everybody seems to have?.

Weiser · 03-04-2009, 11:08 PM

Should work. Drill the 1/8" hole about a 1/4" above your grate.
You may have to wallow out the hole a bit to get the probe to slide in. Tighter is better, but you already knew that.

That probe is only 5" long but it will get you close enough.

Weiser

Dr_KY · 03-05-2009, 02:36 AM

Below the grate works better for me.

Weiser · 03-05-2009, 10:37 AM

You're right Doc! I mis-spoke.
Mine is just below also. Above would be a real pain,
especially if you placed a hunk of cool meat on it.

Weiser

michiana mark · 03-05-2009, 11:03 AM

[quote=jcinadr;853483]Finished up my first UDS this weekend, and test fired it. (Ok finished is a bit of an overstatement - there are still needs a custom paint job, handles, smoke stack, and of course a bottle opener). The test fire left me with a lot of unanswered issues.

The pit currently has 3-3/4x1/2 bushings (set at 3" on outside), the 3"x18" cheep grill ash pan, and a fire basket made of #9 3/4 expanded mesh - 14" diameter, 12" tall - with the fire grill set at 3", and a 2" conduit fitting smokestack.

With a load of approximately 5lbs of terrible wood, and 5lbs of the bottom of a bag of lump, I got 175 with the valve open, 225 with the valve and one nipple open, and 300 with the valve and both nipples open.

Those temps seemed low to me. But hard to say if I work it with 10lbs of dryer lump (and a smoke stack) what the temps will end up. I am worried about the 3" height of the ask tray - I could cut it down, or ventilate it. Seems overkill to change to 1" nipples, but wonder if the bushings 3/4x1/2 bushings are restricting draft. end quote]

Try using charcoal, mine runs better versus the lump. Also loose the ash catcher, it sounds like your fire basket sits to far down into it. Got to let it breathe. If after that you don't get higher temp, you can always add another air inlet. Sounds like you have enough exhaust. Smoke on!!!!!

Weiser · 03-05-2009, 03:09 PM

I agree with dumping the ash pan, sounds like the sides are too high and restricting airflow.
In my opinion, 3-3/4" Intakes are plenty.
I'd be much more concerned with the Exhaust end.

Question: Are you talking about 3/4 inch Intake holes in the drum? I'm proally wrong, but it sounds like you may be using 1/2" nipples. Spank me.

Mine runs fine up to 350* but then again I'm using Redneck's 8 1/2" hole system for Exhaust.

Weiser

[quote=michiana mark;870040]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcinadr

Finished up my first UDS this weekend, and test fired it. (Ok finished is a bit of an overstatement - there are still needs a custom paint job, handles, smoke stack, and of course a bottle opener). The test fire left me with a lot of unanswered issues.

The pit currently has 3-3/4x1/2 bushings (set at 3" on outside), the 3"x18" cheep grill ash pan, and a fire basket made of #9 3/4 expanded mesh - 14" diameter, 12" tall - with the fire grill set at 3", and a 2" conduit fitting smokestack.

With a load of approximately 5lbs of terrible wood, and 5lbs of the bottom of a bag of lump, I got 175 with the valve open, 225 with the valve and one nipple open, and 300 with the valve and both nipples open.

Those temps seemed low to me. But hard to say if I work it with 10lbs of dryer lump (and a smoke stack) what the temps will end up. I am worried about the 3" height of the ask tray - I could cut it down, or ventilate it. Seems overkill to change to 1" nipples, but wonder if the bushings 3/4x1/2 bushings are restricting draft. end quote]

Try using charcoal, mine runs better versus the lump. Also loose the ash catcher, it sounds like your fire basket sits to far down into it. Got to let it breathe. If after that you don't get higher temp, you can always add another air inlet. Sounds like you have enough exhaust. Smoke on!!!!!

Dr_KY · 03-05-2009, 04:28 PM

If you want better temps and controll then only use sizable lump and not the shake from the bottom of the bag, it tends to choke. You may also want to blend it ( as mentioned above ) with some good charcoal.

I think that running with one hole and a valve at 225 is perfect and that's where mine runs al say long.

I only have three intakes too and it's perfect.

Norcoredneck · 03-05-2009, 04:55 PM

Ok my take on this. On the ash catcher, When you start your fire you start it at the top of the pile so if it is a 12" tall basket say filled say 10" then the actual coals are not buried or shouded by the pan. Pan is an option not a necessity. Helps in easier clean up. I have found lower temps usually mean not enough coals lit at start, damp or old charcoal, incorrect reading on thermometer, or too long of nipples used which causes poor draw. Lets see a pic of each component of build.

03-03-2009, 02:02 PM	#2521
Pua'a Kuka Found some matches. Join Date: 02-27-09 Location: Kihei,Hawaii	That is exactly what I have, so my materials list is getting smaller by the hour __________________ Give a brother a meal and he is fed... Teach that brother to BBQ and he is a GOD!!! 1- Original die cast Hibachi 1- Coors Light table top grill 1- K-Mart 21" grill 1- Horizontal cut 55 gal. open face grill 1- Big a**, hole in the ground for an oven

03-03-2009, 08:14 PM	#2525
Barbarian is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-07-07 Location: Middletown California	The redneck is correct, it works great. __________________ Cheers, Jerry aka Barbarian Drumhead - UDS x 2 & UDG Thermopen Keep on Smokin' KC native missin' KC IMBAS Certified MOINK Baller 2009 I also support PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

03-03-2009, 08:20 PM	#2526
Bbq Bubba somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-03-07 Location: New Baltimore, Mi.	Yup, remove the gasket, it actually seals better without. __________________ Owner of Bubba's BBQ & Catering L.L.C. Beer Snob I cook the #bestbrisketnorthoftexas. Get over it. #detroitporkmafia BBQ Person of the Year 2013

03-04-2009, 10:58 PM	#2528
Pua'a Kuka Found some matches. Join Date: 02-27-09 Location: Kihei,Hawaii	Trying to do this build on the cheap. I was able to score a free King Cook thermometer for frying, can I use this in my barrel?, or do I need to use the types that everybody seems to have?. __________________ Give a brother a meal and he is fed... Teach that brother to BBQ and he is a GOD!!! 1- Original die cast Hibachi 1- Coors Light table top grill 1- K-Mart 21" grill 1- Horizontal cut 55 gal. open face grill 1- Big a**, hole in the ground for an oven

03-04-2009, 11:08 PM	#2529
Weiser is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-25-08 Location: Drippin' Springs, TX	Should work. Drill the 1/8" hole about a 1/4" above your grate. You may have to wallow out the hole a bit to get the probe to slide in. Tighter is better, but you already knew that. That probe is only 5" long but it will get you close enough. Weiser __________________ [COLOR=Red][I]"There is a Fine Line between a Hobby and a Mental Disorder." [/I][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR]

03-03-2009, 06:56 PM	#2522
2K1TJ Knows what a fatty is. Join Date: 02-03-09 Location: GA	Just finishing up my new UDS. I have a question that I haven't seen mentioned. Do you remove the gasket around the drum lid? I know it'll seal better with it, but I'm afraid it'll melt and/or give off gasses or fumes from heating up.

03-04-2009, 10:10 AM	#2527
jcinadr On the road to being a farker Join Date: 01-31-09 Location: Austin, Texas	My uds is still a work in process - but am getting closer to pictures. My fire basket is 12"x48" of expanded mesh, with a 14" diameter expanded mesh grate 3" from the bottom. Initially I used the 18" el cheapo table top grill for an an ash pan. It worked, but I felt it was keeping my temperature down. I switched to a 16" commercial pizzia pan this weekend. It is much thicker/stronger than the el cheapo grill. Temp was marginally better - but was working with minimal charcoal (only had sausage and abt's on the grill. Will run a full test again next smoking. Anyway, I really liked the Acemart pizzia pan - it was about $8 and about 3/32 thick.

03-05-2009, 02:36 AM	#2530
Dr_KY Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-15-07 Location: England	Below the grate works better for me. __________________ www.drsweetsmoke.com Slappin that bass like some delerious funky preist!!! UDS, Half Pint (Mini UDS), Weber, ProQ 20, Kegrilla 250 gallon cooker- 'The Meat Beast!!' British BBQ Championships Grand Champion 2008 ~~~~ British BBQ Society - Southern Championship Grand Champions 2009

03-05-2009, 10:37 AM	#2531
Weiser is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 10-25-08 Location: Drippin' Springs, TX	You're right Doc! I mis-spoke. Mine is just below also. Above would be a real pain, especially if you placed a hunk of cool meat on it. Weiser __________________ [COLOR=Red][I]"There is a Fine Line between a Hobby and a Mental Disorder." [/I][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][SIZE=1][COLOR=Black] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR]

03-05-2009, 11:03 AM	#2532
michiana mark is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 04-28-07 Location: South Bend IN Name/Nickname : Mark	[quote=jcinadr;853483]Finished up my first UDS this weekend, and test fired it. (Ok finished is a bit of an overstatement - there are still needs a custom paint job, handles, smoke stack, and of course a bottle opener). The test fire left me with a lot of unanswered issues. The pit currently has 3-3/4x1/2 bushings (set at 3" on outside), the 3"x18" cheep grill ash pan, and a fire basket made of #9 3/4 expanded mesh - 14" diameter, 12" tall - with the fire grill set at 3", and a 2" conduit fitting smokestack. With a load of approximately 5lbs of terrible wood, and 5lbs of the bottom of a bag of lump, I got 175 with the valve open, 225 with the valve and one nipple open, and 300 with the valve and both nipples open. Those temps seemed low to me. But hard to say if I work it with 10lbs of dryer lump (and a smoke stack) what the temps will end up. I am worried about the 3" height of the ask tray - I could cut it down, or ventilate it. Seems overkill to change to 1" nipples, but wonder if the bushings 3/4x1/2 bushings are restricting draft. end quote] Try using charcoal, mine runs better versus the lump. Also loose the ash catcher, it sounds like your fire basket sits to far down into it. Got to let it breathe. If after that you don't get higher temp, you can always add another air inlet. Sounds like you have enough exhaust. Smoke on!!!!! __________________ Looking for the truth, in the thin blue smoke Weber Silver 22.5X2, UDSx2 KCBS-CBJ #16571, Member GLBBQA Roadmaster BBQ comp team Proud member of the Blue Thermapen Association Certified MOINKballer Class of 2008

03-05-2009, 04:28 PM	#2534
Dr_KY Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 12-15-07 Location: England	If you want better temps and controll then only use sizable lump and not the shake from the bottom of the bag, it tends to choke. You may also want to blend it ( as mentioned above ) with some good charcoal. I think that running with one hole and a valve at 225 is perfect and that's where mine runs al say long. I only have three intakes too and it's perfect. __________________ www.drsweetsmoke.com Slappin that bass like some delerious funky preist!!! UDS, Half Pint (Mini UDS), Weber, ProQ 20, Kegrilla 250 gallon cooker- 'The Meat Beast!!' British BBQ Championships Grand Champion 2008 ~~~~ British BBQ Society - Southern Championship Grand Champions 2009

03-05-2009, 04:55 PM	#2535
Norcoredneck somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-11-06 Location: Norco, Ca.	Ok my take on this. On the ash catcher, When you start your fire you start it at the top of the pile so if it is a 12" tall basket say filled say 10" then the actual coals are not buried or shouded by the pan. Pan is an option not a necessity. Helps in easier clean up. I have found lower temps usually mean not enough coals lit at start, damp or old charcoal, incorrect reading on thermometer, or too long of nipples used which causes poor draw. Lets see a pic of each component of build. __________________ *Low and Slow.....* *The Prontologist is in...* *Ok let's see your Butt!*

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