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Old 12-27-2012, 11:17 AM   #16
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Sheep ribs done savory with chimi chury
Wagu & Berkshire Bacon Cheese burger with Stilton and crimini mushrooms on a Brioche roll
Beef pot pie made from left over brisket Flat
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:31 PM   #17
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My restaurant (Smoqued California BBQ) is much more upscale than the regular BBQ joint. We offer some higher end specials from time to time that don't stay on the regular menu such as pork belly, prime rib, fish offerings, etc. I have posted lots of pictures of our place in the Brethren Road Trips secion and you can google our name and probably find some photos.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:02 PM   #18
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I have been liking what I have seen of Ryan's place, that is where I think a high end BBQ place can be taken. If what you are looking for is to feature BBQ, that is much the concept I would look at.

On the other hand, if you wanted to do fine dining, which is what I take upscale to really mean, it comes down to tailoring food to a higher level of service. Smoked meats can figure into the equation, but, it ends up being about how to create the elevated sensation of fine service with that food. You could still do brisket, pork shoulder and such, but, in smaller portions and with more presentation. Thus...

BBQ normal to me...brisket is served on the plate, with pickles, onion, maybe slaw and beans...

Upscale to me...brisket is served on the plate, with house made pickled vegetables and a sweet and spicy polenta and plate sauce from jus

I also think the flavors you pull or add to the meat have to be more complex, people will expect more expansive and creative flavors and higher quality meat if they are paying more for the experience.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:03 PM   #19
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Landarc,

As usual, we are on a similar page. Somewhere between a bistro and a brasserie. I was thinking brisket as a single cut with a demiglace on the plate and a sourcream horseradish placed on the table.

For pork I was thinking about a rillette style presentation with pickled apricot, plum (prune), and possibly a compote.

I have to come clean and say the confited pork loin and duck would be on the menu as well as a cured pork collar.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:08 PM   #20
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Also, a white bean puree is still beans, right.

Please keep this going guys Several good ideas have surfaced already.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:14 PM   #21
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Lessee...Memphis to Rogers is only 340 miles or so...
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:38 PM   #22
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Sour Cream Horseradish sauce is not served with brisket often enough if you ask me.

And as long as I am going down this road, gastrique goes so well with pulled pork. A cherry or apple gastrique, served with a nice rich pulled pork (but not shredded, left in chunks) and some white bean puree, or a sweet corn polenta (to allude to cornbread) would be lovely.

Also, I have often thought about riffing on collards, going either with kale or baby collards in salads and/or as a side dish. I love collards with vinegar, there has to be a way to take that and elevate it.

Oh, and if you chose to go with the elevated Steak house idea, all the rage lately, I would love to see someone finally do a chuck rib right. Cooked in smoke until absolutely tender, with the bone attached, not short ribs, something along the lines of an 8" rib, served with a dark fruit and jus reduction.
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Also, I have often thought about riffing on collards, going either with kale or baby collards in salads and/or as a side dish. I love collards with vinegar, there has to be a way to take that and elevate it.
In a bowl with the pot likker and some thinly sliced pork belly as a small soup would be killer.
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Sour Cream Horseradish sauce is not served with brisket often enough if you ask me.

And as long as I am going down this road, gastrique goes so well with pulled pork. A cherry or apple gastrique, served with a nice rich pulled pork (but not shredded, left in chunks) and some white bean puree, or a sweet corn polenta (to allude to cornbread) would be lovely.

Also, I have often thought about riffing on collards, going either with kale or baby collards in salads and/or as a side dish. I love collards with vinegar, there has to be a way to take that and elevate it.

Oh, and if you chose to go with the elevated Steak house idea, all the rage lately, I would love to see someone finally do a chuck rib right. Cooked in smoke until absolutely tender, with the bone attached, not short ribs, something along the lines of an 8" rib, served with a dark fruit and jus reduction.
Great ideas!!

BUT an 8 inch rib.... that is insanity. I always thought that baby backs were for men *humph* intimidated by spares, but an 8 inch bone... Obviously I kid. However, that would have to be served on a rectangle plate with some sort of architectural construction. I am intimidated by that.
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In a bowl with the pot likker and some thinly sliced pork belly as a small soup would be killer.
Oh hell yeah. Sous vide then broiled pork belly.
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Old 12-27-2012, 03:30 PM   #26
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Bone-in pork roast, sliced double cut style for a huge pork chop.
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