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View Poll Results: Is the new revised pork rule good for BBQ? | |||
Yes! | 33 | 28.21% | |
No! | 18 | 15.38% | |
Meh | 19 | 16.24% | |
Pork is now a grilling contest | 5 | 4.27% | |
Nothing changes for me | 34 | 29.06% | |
Farker! | 8 | 6.84% | |
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07-11-2013, 09:55 AM | #1 | |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 02-27-07
Location: Northern VA
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The new (again) revised pork rule for 2014
Here's the latest incarnation of the pork rule as approved by the KCBS BoD last night:
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07-11-2013, 10:04 AM | #3 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 01-15-12
Location: Kalama Wa.
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I like it, it will allow us to set our sauce on the MM and chunks without dragging the whole butt back to the pit
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07-11-2013, 10:17 AM | #4 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 04-21-09
Location: Marietta, Ohio
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I suppose I see what they are trying to do with it, but I don't see any way of wording it that will not cause confusion and/or allow for "creative interpretation". Make folks show up with whole butts or shoulders, and cook them how they want... let the judging sort it out.
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07-11-2013, 10:43 AM | #5 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-25-06
Location: Elk Creek, Ky.
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I think this rule is clear to me, and nothing wrong with it as far as i'm concerned. Cooked meat to me, is at a temperature that is safe to consume as-is (may not be tender, but safe).. cooked pork as per the USDA is 145. This is what I will use as the definition of cooked.
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07-11-2013, 10:45 AM | #6 |
is Blowin Smoke!
Join Date: 01-01-05
Location: Southern Arizona
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sigh.
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07-11-2013, 10:46 AM | #7 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 06-24-12
Location: Olathe, KS
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I do not have the rules in front of me, but I would guess it is similar to brisket now?
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07-11-2013, 11:12 AM | #8 |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 01-31-12
Location: Great Mills, Md
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They should have done this latest virson but left the 5lb minnium in as well.
With the rule as it is written, I wounder when some online meat source is going to start marketing just the money muscle in a 3 pack cryovac
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07-11-2013, 11:17 AM | #9 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-10-11
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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"PORK: Pork is defined as Boston Butt, Boston Roast, Picnic and/or Whole Shoulder. After trimming, pork shall be cooked whole (bone in or bone out), however, once cooked, it may be separated and returned to the cooker at the cook's discretion. It may be turned in chopped, pulled, chunked, sliced or a combination of any of those."
So I read this as the money muscle still has to be attached when it starts cooking. Is that correct? If so, it says once cooked stuff can be separated. What defines "cooked"? A specific temp? I thought the big change was that people could just be cooking money muscles completely separate and not have to wait till the whole butt is "cooked". Either way doesn't really matter to me. Just wanting to know what they mean .
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07-11-2013, 11:20 AM | #10 | |
Full Fledged Farker
Join Date: 01-31-12
Location: Great Mills, Md
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07-11-2013, 11:22 AM | #11 | |
Babbling Farker
Join Date: 02-27-07
Location: Northern VA
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07-11-2013, 11:26 AM | #12 |
is one Smokin' Farker
Join Date: 10-06-10
Location: Owatonna, MN
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As an organizer, the new version seems to add a bit of clarity about what is permitted.
Since some teams were cooking 2 butts, one for the MM one to pull, it will eliminate that extra butt. Unless you were doing 2 anyway. So I like what I see as another step in the right direction. First new version was the first step, this version seems like just a clarification on intent. IMO.
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07-11-2013, 11:39 AM | #13 |
Quintessential Chatty Farker
Join Date: 11-03-06
Location: Chi-Town
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I don't think the problem is the word "cooked". The problem is the word "discretion"...
Personally, I believe it was a waste of time. It opens the door....
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07-11-2013, 11:39 AM | #14 | |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 01-10-11
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Lets say I want to just cook a MM and during the cook I want to separate the MM, then by the rules before I separate any part of that MM and return it to the smoker it must be "cooked". So KCBS still needs to define cooked. Granted that is a devils advocate example, but still would need clarification by KCBS .
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07-11-2013, 11:40 AM | #15 | |
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Join Date: 04-14-07
Location: Lakeland Florida
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