MMMM.. BRISKET..
The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.  



Our Homepage Donation to Forum Overhead Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Competition BBQ

Notices

Competition BBQ *On Topic Only* Discussion regarding all aspects of Competition BBQ. Experiences competing or visiting, questions, getting started, Equipment, announcements of events, Results, Reviews, Planning, etc. Questions here will be responded to with competition BBQ in mind.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-18-2011, 11:38 AM   #1
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default what is best 1,2, 3, or 4 pits at a Cookoff?

I am not new to Cookoffs but timing and temp control is my biggest problem. One of the main factors is... different temps for different meats as well as capasity.
Example If I had my way... I would cook:
- Brisket at 350
- Butts at 250
- Ribs at 275
- Chicken at 300
Due to holding time and space on my two 18” WSM's this becomes challenging.
I would like to buy a nice smoker that will provide a better crust in a more humid environment.

So here is my question: If I buy one nice cooker will this be enough to cook everything at different temps and improve on holding times?

OR would I have to learn how to cook everything at one temp in order to make this work?

AND lastly do you need to have several cookers based on cooking at different temps for each category?

Many Thanks
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote




Old 06-18-2011, 12:00 PM   #2
Jorge
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Jorge's Avatar
 
Join Date: 01-23-04
Location: DFW, San AntonioTx
Default

If you time it right, I don't see why you can't do what you are talking about with your existing equipment. Butts and brisket each in a cooker. Pull and cooler/Cambro, then cook chicken and ribs after reloading fuel as needed.

Am I not understanding your question?
__________________
You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. --Frank Zappa

Keeping Valspar in BBQ, one cook at a time.

Recipient of a Huggies box!

Shut up, and cook!!!!
Jorge is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:10 PM   #3
glenntm
On the road to being a farker

 
Join Date: 04-13-10
Location: Chandler, AZ
Default

We have 4 cookers, but that works for us. There is no right or wrong answer. It depends on timing, and your cooking methods.
__________________
I.A.B. 30 BBQ
Chandler, AZ
glenntm is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:30 PM   #4
huminie
is one Smokin' Farker
 
Join Date: 07-11-10
Location: Gilroy, CA
Default

These are decisions only you can decide on. I cook all 4 on one cooker (my BWS Fatboy), and have a WSM with me in case it is needed, but haven't used it yet. It is all about your own cooking style and timing schedule. Do whatever gives you the best shot at winning.
__________________
2011 CBBQA Rookie ToY - 6th Overall, 2012 American Royal Invitational - Huminie's Hogalicious BBQ
huminie is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:30 PM   #5
Sawdustguy
Quintessential Chatty Farker
 
Sawdustguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-14-05
Location: Vernon, Connecticut
Default

As Tom above pointed out. It depends largely on your cooking methods.
__________________
Guy (Pitmaster)
BBQ Team: Lawn Guyland Smokers

Stupidity for Dummies

…because sometimes, you just can’t dumb it down enough…
Sawdustguy is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:32 PM   #6
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default

Well yes, I could cook chicken and ribs in the same WSM but they would need to be cooked at the same temp and I would need to open the hood several times and testing for doneness on meat cooked on lower rack would be tough. Lastly opening the hood several times will raise the temp and if you are using a stoker… it will be really tough, as you will never have a chance to stabilize the cooker temp.
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:36 PM   #7
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jorge View Post
If you time it right, I don't see why you can't do what you are talking about with your existing equipment. Butts and brisket each in a cooker. Pull and cooler/Cambro, then cook chicken and ribs after reloading fuel as needed.

Am I not understanding your question?
Quote:
Originally Posted by huminie View Post
These are decisions only you can decide on. I cook all 4 on one cooker (my BWS Fatboy), and have a WSM with me in case it is needed, but haven't used it yet. It is all about your own cooking style and timing schedule. Do whatever gives you the best shot at winning.
So how do you cook on one cooker? This is what I am trying to find out, I am open to any method at this point. I am just weighing my options.
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 12:53 PM   #8
Lake Dogs
Quintessential Chatty Farker

 
Join Date: 07-14-09
Location: Lake Sinclair, GA
Name/Nickname : Hance
Default

We cook everything on one smoker, except for whole hog which goes on another...

We do cook everything from 245-265.
__________________
Hance - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook
Lake Sinclair, GA (strategically about an hour from darn near anywhere)
My competition daze are probably behind me now; I pretty much cook for family, friends, and frankly the peace and solitude I get from smokin' on an offset...
Was Lang 84DX, now Bubba Grills 250R and many Weber grills
Lake Dogs is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 01:59 PM   #9
Bigmista
somebody shut me the fark up.
 
Bigmista's Avatar
 
Join Date: 05-24-04
Location: Long Beach, CA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by habaneromike View Post
I am not new to Cookoffs but timing and temp control is my biggest problem. One of the main factors is... different temps for different meats as well as capasity.
Example If I had my way... I would cook:
- Brisket at 350
- Butts at 250
- Ribs at 275
- Chicken at 300
Due to holding time and space on my two 18” WSM's this becomes challenging.
I would like to buy a nice smoker that will provide a better crust in a more humid environment.

So here is my question: If I buy one nice cooker will this be enough to cook everything at different temps and improve on holding times?

OR would I have to learn how to cook everything at one temp in order to make this work?

AND lastly do you need to have several cookers based on cooking at different temps for each category?

Many Thanks
Cook your briskets in one cooker and your butts in another. Finish them early and put them in coolers or cambros. Change your temps and cook your ribs in one cooker and your chicken in the other.

Simple.
__________________
Wait! Bigmista wrote a cookbook?


Rec Tec RT-700 Bull
Pitmaker Vault



Remembering Scott
Bigmista is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 02:38 PM   #10
huminie
is one Smokin' Farker
 
Join Date: 07-11-10
Location: Gilroy, CA
Default

I cook butts and brisket at the same temps...low overnight and then foiled and cranked up in the morning. I get additional temp variations by careful placement inside the cooker. They are usually done before ribs go on, although sometimes the brisket needs a few more minutes, but that isn't an issue. I start my ribs and position them in the middle of the cooker. Chicken goes on at the top shelf giving it a higher cook temp.

One lesson learned is that with my stoker I have to shut the blower off when I open the door for more than a few seconds. Since my cooker is insulated it holds temps and the blower will cause a raging fire if I don't do this. That day sucked.
__________________
2011 CBBQA Rookie ToY - 6th Overall, 2012 American Royal Invitational - Huminie's Hogalicious BBQ
huminie is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 02:49 PM   #11
big matt
is one Smokin' Farker
 
Join Date: 04-06-10
Location: Banning,Ca
Default

We use two but could do them all on one if we had to.Like everyone else has stated it's really what works for you..and more importantly what affords you the most sleep!
__________________
_________________________________
JOS whole hog cooker
MAK 2 Star
Facebook:[url]https://m.facebook.com/pages/Leftcoast-Q/125103440847709?id=125103440847709&_rdr[/url]
Our website:
[url]http://www.leftcoastq.com/Leftcoastq.com/Home.html[/url]
big matt is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 03:58 PM   #12
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmista View Post
Cook your briskets in one cooker and your butts in another. Finish them early and put them in coolers or cambros. Change your temps and cook your ribs in one cooker and your chicken in the other.

Simple.
Well not so simple, as I am working on holding my brisket for hours, not sure if you saw my post from two weeks ago but... holding a brisket for4 hrs can be tough, at least for me.

This started a huge conversation based on “you should not hold a brisket for 4 hrs and Cambro’s are made for catering not competition”. Ribs take 3+ hrs and I like to have an hour leeway to be safe.

How long do you hold your brisket and do you pull it early so it goes in hot
or do you vent and reheat etc,?

Thanks,
Mike
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 04:07 PM   #13
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by huminie View Post
I cook butts and brisket at the same temps...low overnight and then foiled and cranked up in the morning. I get additional temp variations by careful placement inside the cooker. They are usually done before ribs go on, although sometimes the brisket needs a few more minutes, but that isn't an issue. I start my ribs and position them in the middle of the cooker. Chicken goes on at the top shelf giving it a higher cook temp.

One lesson learned is that with my stoker I have to shut the blower off when I open the door for more than a few seconds. Since my cooker is insulated it holds temps and the blower will cause a raging fire if I don't do this. That day sucked.
Thanks for the good insight to your method!

I have been using the stoker for 4 years now and I have had the same challenge with the blower and constant hood opening. I assume you know about the Blower “off for 5 minutes” feature?
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 04:13 PM   #14
habaneromike
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
 
Join Date: 01-03-11
Location: Los Altos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by big matt View Post
We use two but could do them all on one if we had to.Like everyone else has stated it's really what works for you..and more importantly what affords you the most sleep!

I know you guys took Myron's class, uses his pie and power cook at least your brisket so if I could ask...what is your cooking method/schedule? I am trying to come up with a new one as mine is not working for me!

Thanks,
Mike
habaneromike is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 06-18-2011, 04:42 PM   #15
big matt
is one Smokin' Farker
 
Join Date: 04-06-10
Location: Banning,Ca
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by habaneromike View Post
I know you guys took Myron's class, uses his pie and power cook at least your brisket so if I could ask...what is your cooking method/schedule? I am trying to come up with a new one as mine is not working for me!

Thanks,
Mike
No problem Mike!..our butts and brisket go on at 5 am,pit temp is 350 to start,we cook until our bark is set and our color is where I like(about 3 to 4 hours)then we pan and cover with foil,let them go another hour and start checking for probe feel.at this time our temp is 275 and our ribs are on,our cook runs 7 hrs max sometimes less..hope this helps.
__________________
_________________________________
JOS whole hog cooker
MAK 2 Star
Facebook:[url]https://m.facebook.com/pages/Leftcoast-Q/125103440847709?id=125103440847709&_rdr[/url]
Our website:
[url]http://www.leftcoastq.com/Leftcoastq.com/Home.html[/url]
big matt is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pits I'm considering KingRanch450 Q-talk 13 12-19-2011 09:58 AM
Brick Pits, anyone have one? jdub Q-talk 18 01-14-2009 12:38 PM
Pits video... keale Q-talk 11 09-04-2007 10:11 PM
R.U.B. NY Pits Plowboy Brethren Road Trips 1 12-14-2006 06:55 AM


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Forum Custom Search: Enter your Search text below. GOOGLE will search ONLY the BBQ Brethren Forum.
Custom search MAY not work(no display box) in some configurations of Internet Explorer. Please use compliant version of Firefox or Chrome.







All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts