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Old 12-30-2013, 09:12 AM   #31
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currently I'm all weber, and all charcoal. to keep the message short, I've owned/cooked on several different style/fuel usage grills/smokers. based on my experiences and research, I now own Buddy and the Bullet. Buddy is my modded 18.5" weber kettle, the bullet is my unmodded 18.5" Weber Smokey Mountain. between the two I can cook a lot of food. and, since they're both charcoal, I only stock one type of fuel.
No wood chunks at all? That's just un-American! I go with Marty's technique, basically; four or five hours in the WSM - with wood chunks in my case - and then it's off to the oven! Once you wrap those butts they don't know where they are!
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:23 AM   #32
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Sorry if this has been discussed but the smoke is soaked in during the first couple hours so how about 2-3 hours in the stick burner and then off toe the Big Green Egg and I go to bed?
Have done a similar method starting off with my Klose then finishing for the long haul in the WSM.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:58 AM   #33
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IMO if a person wants to use charcoal, wood, or whatever it's their choice. When a person is more experienced with bbq it doesn't make them the bbq police.

So if that person wants to use charcoal (no matter if it works or not) it's their choice and not anyone else's problem but theirs. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that's all there is to it.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:14 PM   #34
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I have never owned or cooked on a smoker that I could not do both, heck I even use wood on my gas grill. Charcoal will give a more even temp control if set up right, wood can be more challenging. If you don't have a good source for wood, then that is one thing to keep in mind, along with a place to store it.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:38 PM   #35
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It is easy to oversmoke your meat in a stickburner when just burning wood if you don't burn the wood down to coals first which is a real pain in the a$$. This makes a good case for using lump charcoal along with a few wood chunks.
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It is easy to oversmoke your meat in a stickburner when just burning wood if you don't burn the wood down to coals first which is a real pain in the a$$. This makes a good case for using lump charcoal along with a few wood chunks.
I agree that if you let the wood smolder you will get a bad smoke, but you don't have to burn wood to coals prior to using. With proper fire management and seasoned wood, you can load splits all day long and maintain thin blue smoke. My splits ignite within seconds of loading, never smolders (unless I'm drunk)
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I agree that if you let the wood smolder you will get a bad smoke, but you don't have to burn wood to coals prior to using. With proper fire management and seasoned wood, you can load splits all day long and maintain thin blue smoke. My splits ignite within seconds of loading, never smolders (unless I'm drunk)
I'm in total agreement with you. I've never over smoked meat on a stick burner. You've just got to keep that thin blue .
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I tend to see more over smoking (at least from an acrid tasting perspective) happening in barrel/bullet cookers due to the way smoke circulates in the lid. A properly ventilated stick burner with properly cut (thin) seasoned splits will roll TBS all day.
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I tend to see more over smoking (at least from an acrid tasting perspective) happening in barrel/bullet cookers due to the way smoke circulates in the lid. A properly ventilated stick burner with properly cut (thin) seasoned splits will roll TBS all day.
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Yeah, somehow we changed subjects and moved from charcoal in a stick burner to over-smoked meat.
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I like Brisket.!.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:12 PM   #42
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Do you wanna burn Charcoal or Wood? Not to pick on anyone in particular but I see A lot of guys on here , on other forum and on Youtube Buy a Wood Burning Offset Smokers then they want to make them run on Charcoal. It don't work like that - if you want a Charcoal Smoker BUY a Charcoal Smoker - UDS, WSM, PBC- Cabinet Smoker EtC. If you BUY a WOOD BURNER then PLAN on Burning WOOD.


Ya some Fellars have gotten some offsets to run Good on Charcoal n Wood Chunks in a Basket but that's not the norm.

Do ask yourself if you have access to Wood or Do you want to have to buy Wood by the 1/4 cord , 1/2 cord or cord, Is there any a wood to buy around me and do I wanna tend a fire every 45 minutes? If you answer no to any of those Questions don't buy an Offset.

If you do decide you can buy/ get wood and like tending a fire then make sure your post your buy and mods and cooks with plenty of pics!!!
Man I've been crying out from the wilderness about that for eons! You have no idea how nice it is to hear someone else say it for a change!
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I have been burning sticks for many, many years I have yet to experience old smoke stale smoke or rancid smoke. I think different regions must like different amounts of smoke on their meat. I live in the south and for me I want a certain amount of smoke on my meat, there is a line I do not like to go beyond. I like it, all my folks like it, and all my friends. Heck they must I do big cooks a lot and never had nar a complaint. I say run whatever your heart desires as long as you get the desired results and you and yours are happy. I just like to have fun!!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:07 PM   #44
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No wood chunks at all? That's just un-American! I go with Marty's technique, basically; four or five hours in the WSM - with wood chunks in my case - and then it's off to the oven! Once you wrap those butts they don't know where they are!
op was referencing fuel. I do use wood chunks, but for flavor, not fuel
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:07 AM   #45
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In my BSKD, I always start with a Weber chimney full of lit Kingsford Blue for my initial coal base. For the rest of the cook, I add nothing but small splits and chunks...depending on what's available at the time. I will also say that I keep a few splits and chunks on top of my firebox. When it is time to add, I pull from there. Typically, I will only add one split or maybe two chunks at a time. This keeps my fires very small, hot and efficient.

When I was first learning to use my BSKD, I tried to use charcoal 100%, but I could never "maintain" the temp I needed, so I started using splits and chunks for my main fuel. Once I have foiled, I will add lump sometimes, if I am running low on chunks and splits.

IMO, if the pitmaster can make charcoal work in his stick burner, then more power to him. Now that I have my cooker dialed in and I know what fuel works best, I do not consider other fuel options for my cooker.

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