The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS.  



Our Homepage Donation to Forum Overhead Recipes Smoke Signals Magazine Welocme Merchandise Associations Purchase Subscription Amazon Affiliate
Go Back   The BBQ BRETHREN FORUMS. > Discussion Area > Q-talk

Notices

Q-talk *ON TOPIC ONLY* QUALITY ON TOPIC discussion of Backyard BBQ, grilling, equipment and outdoor cookin' . ** Other cooking techniques are welcomed for when your cookin' in the kitchen. Post your hints, tips, tricks & techniques, success, failures, but stay on topic and watch for that hijacking.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-16-2018, 02:26 PM   #13126
dadsr4
somebody shut me the fark up.

 
dadsr4's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-08-10
Location: Howell, MI
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Czarbecue View Post
You may be better off just using some aluminum flashing to increase the height of your charcoal basket. You don’t necessarily need holes on the side of the basket if you have enough air drawing in from the bottom. Just buy a $8 roll of flashing and let it unravel inside the basket. It will naturally create a cylinder. They come in 12” or 18” in height and are 10’ feet long. Enough thickness to support a diffuser plate.
Lit charcoal will melt aluminum.
__________________
Two Weber daisy wheel kettles A: 1979 P: 1993, and an unused ECB
dadsr4 is offline   Reply With Quote




Old 02-16-2018, 04:14 PM   #13127
Beast_Mode
Wandering around with a bag of matchlight, looking for a match.
 
Join Date: 02-14-18
Location: Las Vegas
Name/Nickname : David
Default Las Vegas 55 gallon drums

Quote:
Originally Posted by circle m View Post
If you're looking for clean food grade drums, there's a gun in las vegas selling like new drums for 20.00 on e bay.

Las Vegas craigslist has 55 gallon food grade drums for $15.
Beast_Mode is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-16-2018, 04:29 PM   #13128
Czarbecue
Babbling Farker

 
Czarbecue's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-24-17
Location: Loganville, GA
Name/Nickname : Viet King Cong
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dadsr4 View Post
Lit charcoal will melt aluminum.

Had to check the melting point. I guess I never hit 650F in my WSM with the Hunsaker basket. I just don’t like expanded metal sides for a basket because it will project heat out in all direction.
__________________
Boathouse Smokers Big Black Cabinet
Hunsaker Smokers 110 Gallon Vortex Clone
Oklahoma Joe Bandera Trailer
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp
Weber Q2200
Tejas Smokers Triple Burner Hot Plate
Roccbox Pizza Oven
Blackstone 17" Griddle
Czarbecue is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-16-2018, 05:39 PM   #13129
Nuco59
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 08-18-13
Location: Texas
Default

Untold tons of bbq cooked in UDS with "leaky" expando baskets.

Pretty sure the solid steel sides would radiate a little heat outwards too but w/e.
__________________
I started out with nothing and I got most of it left.
Nuco59 is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-16-2018, 05:52 PM   #13130
Titch
somebody shut me the fark up.


 
Titch's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-17-12
Location: South East Victoria Australia
Name/Nickname : Titch :-)
Default

Is the uds usually 44 gallon or 55?
I havecaccess to 44
__________________
I will never be over the hill,I'm too darn tired to climb it.(Daffy Duck)
Unofficial Vegemite Sponsor.
Don't send the Foster's, it's a Federal crime(IamMadMan)

Join us for a Laugh.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7
Titch is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-16-2018, 06:17 PM   #13131
DRMSMKER
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 11-15-17
Location: LILBURN
Default

Wouldn't allowing the basket to let heat radiate out towards the wall of the drum and then up help increase the out edge of your grates temp. And having a diffuser over the top of the basket cool the middle kinda evening out the inner and outer of your top grate? sounds legit in my head hahaha
DRMSMKER is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-16-2018, 09:39 PM   #13132
Czarbecue
Babbling Farker

 
Czarbecue's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-24-17
Location: Loganville, GA
Name/Nickname : Viet King Cong
Default Ugly Drum Smoker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Titch View Post
Is the uds usually 44 gallon or 55?
I havecaccess to 44

UDS sizes are mostly 55 since it’s the same diameter for a 22” grate (24"). If your 44 has a 24” diameter but just shorter then that is fine too.
__________________
Boathouse Smokers Big Black Cabinet
Hunsaker Smokers 110 Gallon Vortex Clone
Oklahoma Joe Bandera Trailer
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp
Weber Q2200
Tejas Smokers Triple Burner Hot Plate
Roccbox Pizza Oven
Blackstone 17" Griddle
Czarbecue is online now   Reply With Quote


Thanks from:--->
Old 02-16-2018, 11:27 PM   #13133
Titch
somebody shut me the fark up.


 
Titch's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-17-12
Location: South East Victoria Australia
Name/Nickname : Titch :-)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Czarbecue View Post
UDS sizes are mostly 55 since it’s the same diameter for a 22” grate (24"). If your 44 has a 24” diameter but just shorter then that is fine too.
Thanks mate

Never heard of 55 gallon here,
__________________
I will never be over the hill,I'm too darn tired to climb it.(Daffy Duck)
Unofficial Vegemite Sponsor.
Don't send the Foster's, it's a Federal crime(IamMadMan)

Join us for a Laugh.
http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7
Titch is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-17-2018, 04:23 AM   #13134
ebijack
is Blowin Smoke!

 
ebijack's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-23-13
Location: Slums of Warren Mi
Default

The drums I have bought/used were all 22 3/4" I.D. to 23" I.D.
Weber grates are 21.5" Some cheap copy grates are only 21"
Drums I have bought are pretty close to 35" tall.
Shorter drums are not a problem. At 24" tall you still have plenty of room for 2 cooking grates and a diffuser/drip pan grate. 3" tall legs for the coal basket with 6" high sides.
Example



I would not recommend aluminum flashing for a coal basket sides if you are going to do high temp cooking. Aluminum flashing is very weak/flimsy across the flat surface. Probably won't hold up with a handle attached for lifting said basket full of coal/wood. And yes you get more even heat around the drum using expanded metal. My experience.
But there is no problem using aluminum flashing for intakes/exhausts. All of mine have seen 700-800* multiple times/years.
A couple examples, this was when new. Cooking at 600*

A few years later, still working just fine.


One on my vertical cabinet. But it does not see high temp

Flat lid drum


Even on my Acorn for an intake. This was when new. Smoke Ninja still using it today. Many nuclear cooks. No problem.

__________________
007 Stubby UDS wood burning grill. Horizontal drum offset smoker/grill.Vertical cabinet. Mini Wsm. WGA.

Last edited by ebijack; 02-17-2018 at 04:38 AM..
ebijack is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from: --->
Old 02-17-2018, 05:53 AM   #13135
Nuco59
is One Chatty Farker
 
Join Date: 08-18-13
Location: Texas
Default 44 gallon drum vs 55 gallon

Titch said:
Never heard of 55 gallon here,[/QUOTE]

Yes you have- y'all just call it a 44. You guys use imperial gallons (tad larger than US gallons. Both your 44 and our 55 hold right at 200 liters. There are minor differences in the actual dimensions of our 55 drums depending on mfg- I would expect the same in your neck of the woods.

Most common steel drum in the world plus the grates of the most common sized charcoal grill - it's no wonder why that is the "normal" uds config.
__________________
I started out with nothing and I got most of it left.
Nuco59 is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-17-2018, 08:40 AM   #13136
DRMSMKER
On the road to being a farker
 
Join Date: 11-15-17
Location: LILBURN
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nuco59 View Post
Titch said:
Never heard of 55 gallon here,
Yes you have- y'all just call it a 44. You guys use imperial gallons (tad larger than US gallons. Both your 44 and our 55 hold right at 200 liters. There are minor differences in the actual dimensions of our 55 drums depending on mfg- I would expect the same in your neck of the woods.

Most common steel drum in the world plus the grates of the most common sized charcoal grill - it's no wonder why that is the "normal" uds config.[/QUOTE]

wow didnt' even look where he was from. Good catch.. Thats why a 44 gal drum seemed so foreign to me....b/c it is hahaha.

anyone else want to weigh in on the benefits of putting my diffuser right over the coal basket instead of on teh lower great about 8 inches above?
DRMSMKER is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-17-2018, 09:12 AM   #13137
Czarbecue
Babbling Farker

 
Czarbecue's Avatar
 
Join Date: 06-24-17
Location: Loganville, GA
Name/Nickname : Viet King Cong
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRMSMKER View Post
anyone else want to weigh in on the benefits of putting my diffuser right over the coal basket instead of on teh lower great about 8 inches above?

The Hunsaker basket has the deflector right on top because why waste vertical cooking space? If you’re not hanging then it’s no big deal. Doesn’t make much difference where it starts, from my experience.
__________________
Boathouse Smokers Big Black Cabinet
Hunsaker Smokers 110 Gallon Vortex Clone
Oklahoma Joe Bandera Trailer
Masterbuilt ThermoTemp
Weber Q2200
Tejas Smokers Triple Burner Hot Plate
Roccbox Pizza Oven
Blackstone 17" Griddle
Czarbecue is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 02-17-2018, 09:12 AM   #13138
ebijack
is Blowin Smoke!

 
ebijack's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-23-13
Location: Slums of Warren Mi
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRMSMKER View Post
anyone else want to weigh in on the benefits of putting my diffuser right over the coal basket instead of on teh lower great about 8 inches above?
3 bolts/nuts and you can have a 3rd grate/diffuser/drip pan location.
Keeping the diffuser above the basket a bit will have better airflow than sitting on top of a full/mostly full basket. IMHO
__________________
007 Stubby UDS wood burning grill. Horizontal drum offset smoker/grill.Vertical cabinet. Mini Wsm. WGA.
ebijack is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-24-2018, 04:04 PM   #13139
Snakestyle5
Got rid of the matchlight.
 
Snakestyle5's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-04-17
Location: Alpena mi
Name/Nickname : Dustin
Default

I’m a new member/new to smoking. I built a homemade UDS and tested it this weekend. I have to say I’m quite pleased. I have a bit of learning to do as I figure out exactly where my intake should be set to get my target temps. I used a homemade slider instead of ball valves. Has anyone else done something similar? If so what are your thought. I did it this way because it was much cheaper. I may change that down the road as the slider is a bit stiff. Also need to make a mount for my meat probe. Would post photos but I don’t know how. Lol.
__________________
Custome ugly drum smoker in northern Michigan.
Snakestyle5 is offline   Reply With Quote


Thanks from:--->
Old 02-24-2018, 04:23 PM   #13140
Big Dan
Full Fledged Farker

 
Big Dan's Avatar
 
Join Date: 09-02-12
Location: Coastal Bend Texas
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Czarbecue View Post
Had to check the melting point. I guess I never hit 650F in my WSM with the Hunsaker basket. I just don’t like expanded metal sides for a basket because it will project heat out in all direction.
Heat rises.
Big Dan is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
divided circle template, uds, ugly drum, ugly drum grill, ugly drum smoker

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ugly Drum Smoker ironslob Q-talk 2 09-19-2010 10:16 AM
Ugly Drum Smoker - Need Help Bartkowiakj Q-talk 10 06-18-2010 09:38 PM
One Ugly Drum Smoker Steve_B Q-talk 15 09-21-2009 10:32 PM
My (not-so) Ugly Drum Smoker. hav Q-talk 47 11-05-2008 02:30 PM
Ceramic Cooker Meets Ugly Drum Smoker - BUDCS - Concept Drum Discussion Hook_Line_and_Sinker Q-talk 9 04-26-2008 02:24 PM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Forum Custom Search: Enter your Search text below. GOOGLE will search ONLY the BBQ Brethren Forum.
Custom search MAY not work(no display box) in some configurations of Internet Explorer. Please use compliant version of Firefox or Chrome.







All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
2003 -2012 © BBQ-Brethren Inc. All rights reserved. All Content and Flaming Pig Logo are registered and protected under U.S and International Copyright and Trademarks. Content Within this Website Is Property of BBQ Brethren Inc. Reproduction or alteration is strictly prohibited.
no new posts