Is this a slap on the wrist for drinkin reps?

Tarheel · 06-17-2011, 05:40 PM

This is on one of the other forums so I wanted to see what this forum thought.

Two reps have been punished by the board for drinking while at a contest on duty. They recieved a suspension of 6 contest or 3 months.

There is a rule in the reps manuel against it. They were asked by the ones who supplied the drinks if that was allowed and both said the rule had been changed.

Now, a cook gets caught using gas the wrong way, a hair dryer now, saying the wrong thing to a rep, or being unruley they are suspended for a year. Case in point, a team cooking there second contest used a weed burner to relight there coals in a bullet after removing the brisket from the bottom rack but they left the butt on the top rack. They did not know.

Too bad, suspended for a year.

These two reps knew the rules, lied about it, and for one it is the second offence.

You tell me, does this seem even to you? Just for info, One board member voted for no punishment, and two abstained.
There are no guidelines for punishment for reps or judges and the board is trying to correct that. But it needs to be even in my opinion.
The reps are paid independent contractors now, they are suppose to be overseeing the contest for the KCBS. They should be held to the higher standard.

My two cents.

BBQ Grail · 06-17-2011, 05:48 PM

Time to catch up...

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=106087

Rookie'48 · 06-17-2011, 05:51 PM

The Rep that had the second offense should be stripped of any & all KCBS offices, titles and jobs or duties. The other one should get a minimum of a one year suspension.
But then again, we have semi-famous Master CBJs who seem to have skated for the same crap.

huminie · 06-17-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BBQ Grail

Time to catch up...

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=106087

I thought in that case it was judges, not reps, who were drinking? I don't think these are the same situations.

Rookie'48 · 06-17-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by huminie

I thought in that case it was judges, not reps, who were drinking? I don't think these are the same situations.

In my opinion the Reps should get a stiffer punishment than the judges. It's kinda like the cop who takes dope from the evidence locker & gets high - he (or she) d*mn well should have known better.
If you are in charge of enforcing the rules & you break said rules shouldn't your punishment be more severe?

huminie · 06-17-2011, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rookie'48

In my opinion the Reps should get a stiffer punishment than the judges. It's kinda like the cop who takes dope from the evidence locker & gets high - he (or she) d*mn well should have known better.
If you are in charge of enforcing the rules & you break said rules shouldn't your punishment be more severe?

I don't necessarily disagree. I was just pointing out that this is a new horse we have yet to beat rather than that grease mark on the pavement that is the judging/drinking/verbal abuse debacle.

redneck cooker · 06-17-2011, 06:58 PM

Aw...the drama

of KCBS.....Looks like reps and CBJ's should be held to the same level of respect and should be punished the same, for the same rule infraction(s), it all looks bad on the assn...

SaucyWench · 06-17-2011, 07:20 PM

What boggles my mind is that while the rule has been in place for at least as long as I've been a member of KCBS, they neglected to assign a consequence for breaking them. There is no reason to be making up punishments on a case-to-case basis.

smoke-n-my-i's · 06-17-2011, 07:20 PM

Rules are rules... they are there for a reason.

So if KCBS has the rules in place, why don't they, or if so no one has mentioned them, have the consequences listed as well, they do for teams that break the rules..... or didn't they think they would be broken?

SaucyWench · 06-17-2011, 07:21 PM

Exactly!

gmholler · 06-17-2011, 07:25 PM

Personally, I'd like to hear the other side of the story; I know the reps in question and what I've heard doesn't sound like them AT ALL. I've heard one of them speak out at a CBJ class I helped with about not drinking alcohol at contests, so something doesn't seem right.

Lynn H.

PimpSmoke · 06-17-2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarheel

This is on one of the other forums so I wanted to see what this forum thought.

Now, a cook gets caught using gas the wrong way, a hair dryer now, saying the wrong thing to a rep, or being unruley they are suspended for a year. Case in point, a team cooking there second contest used a weed burner to relight there coals in a bullet after removing the brisket from the bottom rack but they left the butt on the top rack. They did not know.

Too bad, suspended for a year.

Give me some insight here. How do you remove the top rack, to remove the bottom rack, on a WSM and then put the top rack back on, and not know about it?

A hair dryer makes heat electrically, use a fan.

Sledneck · 06-17-2011, 10:09 PM

Hair dryer??? i dont get it, how can its be used in comp bbq?

huminie · 06-17-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledneck

Hair dryer??? i dont get it, how can its be used in comp bbq?

To stoke coals...as in forced draft....but it also contains a heating element like an electric cooker would.

QansasjayhawQ · 06-18-2011, 12:10 AM

Oh, man. This is too complicated.

Drinking reps, judges maybe, hair dryers as forced draft, changing racks, removing bottom first (how does that work?) crime and punishment . . .

Can someone start all over at the beginning for me?

:-)

06-17-2011, 05:40 PM	#1
Tarheel Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 03-26-09 Location: Hertford, NC	Is this a slap on the wrist for drinkin reps? This is on one of the other forums so I wanted to see what this forum thought. Two reps have been punished by the board for drinking while at a contest on duty. They recieved a suspension of 6 contest or 3 months. There is a rule in the reps manuel against it. They were asked by the ones who supplied the drinks if that was allowed and both said the rule had been changed. Now, a cook gets caught using gas the wrong way, a hair dryer now, saying the wrong thing to a rep, or being unruley they are suspended for a year. Case in point, a team cooking there second contest used a weed burner to relight there coals in a bullet after removing the brisket from the bottom rack but they left the butt on the top rack. They did not know. Too bad, suspended for a year. These two reps knew the rules, lied about it, and for one it is the second offence. You tell me, does this seem even to you? Just for info, One board member voted for no punishment, and two abstained. There are no guidelines for punishment for reps or judges and the board is trying to correct that. But it needs to be even in my opinion. The reps are paid independent contractors now, they are suppose to be overseeing the contest for the KCBS. They should be held to the higher standard. My two cents.

06-17-2011, 05:48 PM	#2
BBQ Grail somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Rocklin, CA	Time to catch up... http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=106087 __________________ Larry Soon to be a Texafornian. For a limited time I will be issuing Moink Ball Certificates. I'm working on a special COVID 19 Verson. Email me for details.

06-17-2011, 05:51 PM	#3
Rookie'48 Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 11-12-06 Location: Des Moines, Iowa	The Rep that had the second offense should be stripped of any & all KCBS offices, titles and jobs or duties. The other one should get a minimum of a one year suspension. But then again, we have semi-famous Master CBJs who seem to have skated for the same crap. __________________ Dave Compton KCBS MasterCBJ # 22569 Member of the 100+ Contest Club Judge Number 6 competition BBQ team Possibly the only judge ever to get an award from a bunch of cooks UDS 075 UCB WSM and a bunch of other stuff.

06-17-2011, 06:58 PM	#7
redneck cooker On the road to being a farker Join Date: 04-10-11 Location: Glen Rose TX	Aw...the dramaof KCBS.....Looks like reps and CBJ's should be held to the same level of respect and should be punished the same, for the same rule infraction(s), it all looks bad on the assn... __________________ Please visit us at www.redneckcooker.com for all your award winning rubs!!!

06-17-2011, 07:20 PM	#8
SaucyWench Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-13-08 Location: Taylorsville, KY	What boggles my mind is that while the rule has been in place for at least as long as I've been a member of KCBS, they neglected to assign a consequence for breaking them. There is no reason to be making up punishments on a case-to-case basis. __________________ Master CBJ, CTC, Secretary of Domestic Tranquility

06-17-2011, 07:20 PM	#9
smoke-n-my-i's is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 08-27-07 Location: Eustis, FL	Rules are rules... they are there for a reason. So if KCBS has the rules in place, why don't they, or if so no one has mentioned them, have the consequences listed as well, they do for teams that break the rules..... or didn't they think they would be broken? __________________ KCBS Member Smoke-N-My-I's Competition BBQ Team 2 Chargriller SuperPros with SFB's(retired) 2 UGLY drum smokers Weber 22 1/2" & 18 1/2" Kettle Super fast RED Thermapen Screaming fast ORANGE Thermapen KCBS Certified Table Captain KCBS Certified Judge

06-17-2011, 07:21 PM	#10
SaucyWench Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 11-13-08 Location: Taylorsville, KY	Exactly! __________________ Master CBJ, CTC, Secretary of Domestic Tranquility

06-17-2011, 07:25 PM	#11
gmholler Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 04-15-09 Location: Lafayette, LA	Personally, I'd like to hear the other side of the story; I know the reps in question and what I've heard doesn't sound like them AT ALL. I've heard one of them speak out at a CBJ class I helped with about not drinking alcohol at contests, so something doesn't seem right. Lynn H.

06-17-2011, 10:09 PM	#13
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06-18-2011, 12:10 AM	#15
QansasjayhawQ is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-21-06 Location: Lawrence, Kansas - The Great American Outback	Oh, man. This is too complicated. Drinking reps, judges maybe, hair dryers as forced draft, changing racks, removing bottom first (how does that work?) crime and punishment . . . Can someone start all over at the beginning for me? :-) __________________ We should be too big to take offense and too noble to give it. - Abraham Lincoln ------- One Moocow UDS! (Thanks, Shane!) http://www.moocowbbq.com/ Two Weber 22.5" kettles One Brinkmann Smoke'N PitMaster Deluxe One LARGE WSM! (special black glossy finish) w/Stoker! WooHoo! KCBS Member/KCBS Master CBJ #24295 Sweaty, smokey and enjoying every minute.

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