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Old 02-19-2020, 05:54 PM   #256
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Old 02-19-2020, 07:20 PM   #257
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Looks like this guy may have found a solution to grease fires without cleaning and he made sure it was level.


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Old 02-19-2020, 08:08 PM   #258
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Looks like this guy may have found a solution to grease fires without cleaning and he made sure it was level.


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Old 02-19-2020, 08:34 PM   #259
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I bought one, I used it, and it’s a complete piece of ****. Thanks for BBB for calling out the flaws. When I assembled mine I knew it was junk but I’m a weber fanboy. This thing is a safety risk to most people, I hope Weber recalls it at least. Most people don’t dive deep into bbq they just want to cook and will have no idea how to handle these grease fires.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:07 AM   #260
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If you watched the whole vid, Dude did mention he had a ball of foil to clean the grills. That's all I do with my gasser. Same as I do a burn off from time to time. Not after every cook though.


On edit, He did level it. That's a Biggie.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:25 AM   #261
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Yeah, I'm not sure. The lady with whom I spoke was clearly very knowledgeable and forthright. That's not to say that Weber either isn't aware of a bigger issue, or not cover something up. She did, however, say that grease fires are not an issue that they've identified and they disagree with what's being posted/published.

Just so everyone is clear, you can open your lid, put your probe in, etc. What Weber is saying in the manual is that they recommend a drip pan and they do not recommend cooking with the lid open. I didn't like that when I saw it either, as I prefer grilling without a lid.

For me, the biggest takeaway is that I'm now a huge pellet grill fan. I'm very much looking forward to getting a Mak. For those who don't want to drop a ton of coin on a higher end cooker, I think the Smokefire is a tremendous value. It doesn't have the paint problems of a Yoder, probably cooks hotter than a Mak and smokes better than a Memphis, all without the massive price tag. Is it a better cooker? Probably not, at least not right now, but it is probably a much better value and will improve in short order.

Those of you who find yourselves angry, frustrated and disappointed might want to avoid early adoption in the future. I had no expectations of this grill and, for that reason, have not found myself disappointed. I actually chuckled last night when my cooker died mid-cook and I had to move my lamb chops to a skillet.
Buddy, it seems like you keep on saying the same thing over and over, and you're refusing to listen to what people are explicitly showing you. The drip pan is recommended....IN THE GREASE SYSTEM. What this means is that they recommend a drip pan in the drawer. NOWHERE in that manual, or in any video put out by Weber, does it say they recommend a drip tray INSIDE the cooking chamber. If you actually watched BabyBackManiac's video he CLEARLY has a drip pan inside the drawer as recommended by Weber.

Do you mean to tell us that on the phone with Weber they explicitly stated that you should have a drip tray INSIDE the smoke chamber?

Here's what it says in the "warnings" part of the manual :

"WARNING! Never operate this grill without the
ash and grease system in place. Always use a
drip pan to collect grease within the drawer
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That manual NEVER states to use a drip pan INSIDE the smoke chamber. Each and every time this manual uses the words "drip pan" it is linked directly to "grease system." Their grease system is the method of diverting the grease into the drawer. Unfortunately, as has been shown in many videos, the grease can't drain properly because there is more ash than was designed to be inside the bottom of the cook chamber.

Good luck with your SmokeFire and putting in the new auger (it was the auger, right?). I'm not trying to be rude here but I just wanted to emphasize that you're misunderstanding Weber when they say the words "drip pan" in regards to the SmokeFire. It is part of the grease system which means the the drip pan needs to be in the drawer...NOT the cook chamber.

Also, here's what the manual says about the grease system :

"Easy-Clean Ash and Grease System
With superior ash and grease removal, the ash and grease are channeled into an external, contained drawer for a quick and easy cleanup. This means not having to look at all that nasty grease in a bucket hanging from the side of your beautiful new pellet grill. This unique system also prevents ash from blowing up into the cookbox and onto your food. "
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:33 AM   #262
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Here is the brisket from the Weber meet and greet in November There is no drip pan under the meat.

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Old 02-20-2020, 06:43 AM   #263
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Well if you trim all the fat off before you cook it may not catch on fire, might not be able to eat it but no fire lol. Sad situation and hopefully they will get it corrected quickly, imo even on their gas grills the drip pan is way to close to the heat and have had grease i fires in mine, another 3-4” drop would solve the problem
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Old 02-20-2020, 08:40 AM   #264
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Wonder how long until these hit the used market cheap.
Just thinking I might pick one up used and make some mods to use it. I am thinking $100.00 is all the more I would give anyone for one. Just me thinking aloud.
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Old 02-20-2020, 08:57 AM   #265
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Wonder how long until these hit the used market cheap.
Just thinking I might pick one up used and make some mods to use it. I am thinking $100.00 is all the more I would give anyone for one. Just me thinking aloud.
That's what I'm thinking. Aside from the software end of things, we could probably make corrections to make it usable.
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That's what I'm thinking. Aside from the software end of things, we could probably make corrections to make it usable.
So long as its perfectly level and you only cook non fat foods on it.
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That's what I'm thinking. Aside from the software end of things, we could probably make corrections to make it usable.
Probably an aftermarket controller will come out and fix it. So if I see one cheap I would buy it and hang on to it.
The grease fire issue can be fixed.
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Probably an aftermarket controller will come out and fix it. So if I see one cheap I would buy it and hang on to it.
The grease fire issue can be fixed.

A controller can't fix gopher holes, pellets not feeding, and a poor drainage system.
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Old 02-20-2020, 11:05 AM   #269
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The lid was down both times the fires started.

They don’t encourage a drip pan. They encourage a water pan and it has nothing to do with preventing fires. It has to do with consumers asking for it (mimicking the water pans of the WSM). The guy that built the cooker really dislikes the idea because the whole point in how they designed the cooker was to not need it... or else they would have put one in there. I can not stress enough how proud they are of the drip-panless design. It’s one of the main features they were trying to innovate with and there are a lot of benefits of NOT having one.

With that said...I’ll be using a drip pan in the future. Lol.

There are a several videos of grease fires now. I’m not the only one. I’m glad yours is running so well. Wish mine was.

BBM - I've been watching your videos for years and have always enjoyed them.


The last 3 or 4 minutes of your Smokefire overnight video were some of the most honest and refreshing that I've seen in a while. I've been a fan for awhile, but the integrity and willingness to step up and admit you could have handled it better is a pretty rare thing these days.



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What’s even more disturbing is that you can go to Weber’s site & still order one!
I know it! I just went to their website myself and saw that! I returned mine, it was a disaster.
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