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Stuff a Whole Pig with Whole Chickens??

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Garvin Blackmon

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Good Day Gents and Ladies,

Well Hello From Sunny Bangkok!! And Hope this is the correct place to ask this Question or 3...

I have a Brand New UDS due from Fab Shop today.
Planning on putting a pig on it Saturday for serving Sunday. Pig is 35 to 40 kg so70+ to 80+ lbs. Will know when I get it from shop.
I "Plan" to stuff the Cavity with Whole Chickens as well.. some Herbs and spices also of course,.. But Has anyone had any experience doing this?
Wonder what that will do to my cooking time.. How Long to estimate.. I Do know this is not an Exact time measurement and "Q" is always ready when it gets ready,.. but an estimate?

Any references on how to serve it all up. Heck on any comments / Ideas at all I am greaful.. Figure You are the Guys to Ask.

Oh..
Smoker is coming Sand Blasted..Ideas on 'Seasoning' the thing? was planing to make several Dry runs (No food) to determine Characteristics of this smoker.. Also just run the Temp as High as I can.. But that is about all I can think of to do.. Should I spray Cooking oil inside First? before Firing the Coals / wood?

Thanks

Garvin
 
How big is your UDS? I couldn't imagine my 55 gallon drum smoker would fit a 70 lb pig, are you going to hang it vertically or put it on a spit above the barrel?
 
Even a little piglet of 20-30 lbs would be hard to hang in there without being right on top of the fire basket (assuming you have a fire basket). No experience here with the chickens.
 
I'm thinking maybe he doesn't mean UDS. Unless he's found onehelluva big D!
 
Wow, that sounds like a bad idea. I could very well be wrong, but if the pig gets done before the chicken stuffed inside it, you will either have to overcook the pig, or undercook the chickens. Undercooking the chickens could lead to a whole lot of time in the bathroom, if you know what I mean.

Add the fact that this will be your first cook on a new cooker, and I see all kinds of potentially bad things happening. You are asking for ideas to season your new UDS, so you can do a first cook of a pig stuffed with chickens?

Help me out here, brethren, am I the only one just a little bit worried?

I may be a complete wuss, but I would go a little less out there for my first cook on a new cooker.

CD
 
"How big is your UDS? I couldn't imagine my 55 gallon drum smoker would fit a 70 lb pig, are you going to hang it vertically or put it on a spit above the barrel?"

"
Even a little piglet of 20-30 lbs would be hard to hang in there without being right on top of the fire basket (assuming you have a fire basket). No experience here with the chickens."

Thanks for comments.. It Just Barely Fits..Drum / Cooking Chamber is 33 inches insde.. length wise.. Pig 35 kg including Head is 31 inches in length..
Smoker design is a lower drum as Fire Box, Flues for heat Smoke (6" dia) go up into upper drum as cooking snamber..

Appoligizes for no Pic's YET.. But Smoker is Due from Fab Shop any time now to my home..

Man these guys kept me hanging on the Delivery till the 11th Hour... But in Thailand, 'Murphy and his Whole family are really Active with that 'Law' of His ... LOL

Gar

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Thanks Caseydog..
Ok, That settles it.. I KNOW when to LISTEN to the experts!!

I will do the Chickens in my smaller Smoker!! That would be a Wiser / Safer course of Action.
I know it is "Iffy" doing a Whole Pig as 'First meat in a new smoker..But I got Stuck into the situation.

I plan on geting it in the smoker by early Sat AM 9:00 am latest, and staying with it till it is ready.. have 6 friends also here on Saturday coming in 'Shifts" to help out..

Appreciate you guys all keeping your fingers crossed for me ..

Gar
 
Looking forward to seeing the pics
Smoker design is a lower drum as Fire Box, Flues for heat Smoke (6" dia) go up into upper drum as cooking snamber..

Appoligizes for no Pic's YET.. But Smoker is Due from Fab Shop any time now to my home..
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Garvin Blackmon said:
Thanks Caseydog..
Ok, That settles it.. I KNOW when to LISTEN to the experts!!

I will do the Chickens in my smaller Smoker!! That would be a Wiser / Safer course of Action.
I know it is "Iffy" doing a Whole Pig as 'First meat in a new smoker..But I got Stuck into the situation.

I plan on geting it in the smoker by early Sat AM 9:00 am latest, and staying with it till it is ready.. have 6 friends also here on Saturday coming in 'Shifts" to help out..

Appreciate you guys all keeping your fingers crossed for me ..

Gar
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It's very simple. Never cook Raw Chicken with any other meat. Salmonella awaits.
 
Good luck with the new cooker. Good idea separating the meats, just gonna be better all the way around.

Have a friend that moved to Bangkok a few years ago and he sent me a shirt from Roadhouse Barbecue there. Ever been there? Checked out the website, looked pretty good.
 
superlazy said:
So either the wife volunteered you or you got drunk a volunteered yourself!

Fess up:p
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Well... You are 100% correct 555.
It started with myself and 3 friends sitting with some 'Adult" beverages in a Comfortable Pub, in comfortable chairs and talking of the Brisket I had done a few weeks before...

Well one Friend ,.. forgot which one, said.. Wow, I would like to do a Whole animal.. a Pig or a Lamb, That would be Awesome !!! and we all agreed and agreed 'Enthusiastically; All of the friends live in Apartments in Town,. so have no place to do such a thing.. So I said "I have a Smoker,.. and plenty of lawn space.. Shade trees etc.." So in no time at all... They agreed to pay for the Pig and sundry items and off we all went..

Then,.. I learned How Big (Long ) the Pig would be,.. Oooppss Biger than my smoker.. So beggan the Mad Rush to Build, and here we are some three weeks later Facing a Sunday Pig Feast!! LOL

Btw, the number 5 is pronounced 'Ha' in Thai language.. Therefore '555' sounds like 'Ha Ha Ha' Just trivia..

Garvin
 
westy said:
Good luck with the new cooker. Good idea separating the meats, just gonna be better all the way around.

Have a friend that moved to Bangkok a few years ago and he sent me a shirt from Roadhouse Barbecue there. Ever been there? Checked out the website, looked pretty good.
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It is pretty good Food.. one of only a Few over here. But that is changing!!
Gar
 
caseydog said:
Wow, that sounds like a bad idea. I could very well be wrong, but if the pig gets done before the chicken stuffed inside it, you will either have to overcook the pig, or undercook the chickens. Undercooking the chickens could lead to a whole lot of time in the bathroom, if you know what I mean.

Add the fact that this will be your first cook on a new cooker, and I see all kinds of potentially bad things happening. You are asking for ideas to season your new UDS, so you can do a first cook of a pig stuffed with chickens?

Help me out here, brethren, am I the only one just a little bit worried?

I may be a complete wuss, but I would go a little less out there for my first cook on a new cooker.

CD
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I agree. A turducken is one thing. But a pigken ??
 
caseydog said:
Wow, that sounds like a bad idea. I could very well be wrong, but if the pig gets done before the chicken stuffed inside it, you will either have to overcook the pig, or undercook the chickens. Undercooking the chickens could lead to a whole lot of time in the bathroom, if you know what I mean.

Add the fact that this will be your first cook on a new cooker, and I see all kinds of potentially bad things happening. You are asking for ideas to season your new UDS, so you can do a first cook of a pig stuffed with chickens?

Help me out here, brethren, am I the only one just a little bit worried?

I may be a complete wuss, but I would go a little less out there for my first cook on a new cooker.

CD
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What CD said!
 
The only time I will jointly cook meats is if I use a seasoned pork product like sausages or bacon to add to the flavor. I keep a jar of bacon grease on hand and will use that to rub the outside of my bird before adding spices. Hell, I use bacon grease as my preferred cooking oil for damn near everything when I can.
 
I haven't done the hole (+100#) hog stuffed with chickens, but I have been to a BBQ where they did it. It was done on a rotisserie and was 10 - 12 hours if I remember right.
 
Garvin Blackmon said:
Smoker design is a lower drum as Fire Box, Flues for heat Smoke (6" dia) go up into upper drum as cooking snamber..

Gar

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It sounds like the cooker is some type of double barrel smoker. Something like this I guess.

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If so I think it will work for a small pig. I am glad to see you have abandoned the idea of stuffing it with a chicken. If I am correct about the cooker there are probably people here that can give advice on the pig cook.
 
fweck said:
I haven't done the hole (+100#) hog stuffed with chickens, but I have been to a BBQ where they did it. It was done on a rotisserie and was 10 - 12 hours if I remember right.
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Yep.. beginning to see a Mixed review of this Idea..
In Truth, I am on the fence.. just at the moment..
Facts are I DO have options for more Meat.. a second Smoker . And Yet I hear some comments now a lot of places about how Dang Good the Chicken tastes done 'In The Pig"
I most likely will 'Save ' the experiment for when the smoker has done a few Pigs and I do not have 45 or so Guests planned to attend..
I mean.. Worse Case Pizza Hut Does Deliver here,.. but it would NOT be Cool LOL..

Considering going to 250 F .. saw that in an article.. makes some sense and he was describibg a 75 Lb Pig, Dressed.. Smooked for "About 9 Hours".. And yes.. I DO know.. on slow smoke.. it is 'Done when it is done"..
Too many Variables.. Meat density, ambiant temp, Wind .. just what way my Wife looks at me that day 555.. All affect the Slow Smoke Gin.
We got a Lot of Good folks coming.. Even a Profesional Magician With his Troupe og Friends that has been my Friend for 25+ years.. He will entertain just by walking in lol.. He Cannot help it!!
He was an opening act in the China Olympics .. A super human being. Does free shows for Children's Hospitals a lot of the time.

Thanks for the input.
To All

Gar
 
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