VA BBQ Used to be Sold in Texas and other States Because of Demand

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 04:36 PM

There was a time in this country that when someone thought of BBQ they thought of Virginia.

Here is an ad from a place in El Paso, TX that leveraged that image and used to sell "Old Virginia BBQ." The El Paso Herald, July 18, 1914. At the turn of the 20th century, Texas was just beginning their BBQ tradition. VA BBQ had already been legend in our country for about 300 years.

Virginia BBQ cooks, stop hanging your heads! VA has a rich BBQ tradition. I will do my part to bring it to light. Here is only a glimpse of what I have dug up in my labor of love.

BBQ_Steve · 12-28-2012, 05:01 PM

Love it! I am a native Virginian (Richmond) who loves living in Texas. However, I will always love my Virginia BBQ. I have convinced numerous Texans to eat their pulled pork sandwich the proper way. With coleslaw on it!

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBQ_Steve

Love it! I am a native Virginian (Richmond) who loves living in Texas. However, I will always love my Virginia BBQ. I have convinced numerous Texans to eat their pulled pork sandwich the proper way. With coleslaw on it!

Nice! I taught that to a Texan about 2 weeks ago.They loved it.

BobBrisket · 12-28-2012, 05:07 PM

WOW! The old Herald Post. That newpaper doesn't exist anymore. That address pulls up in Fabens, TX which is in our outskirts. Now I see it's chile con carne. The Mexican version of Texas Chili. That is too cool. Have you come up with any other info on the name, E. Scott?

Grabnabber · 12-28-2012, 05:35 PM

Phone # 4854.

chriscw81 · 12-28-2012, 06:25 PM

Cool, thanks for sharing.

Sent from my Nexus using Tapatalk 2

ZILLA · 12-28-2012, 08:14 PM

But it was El Paso.....

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobBrisket

WOW! The old Herald Post. That newpaper doesn't exist anymore. That address pulls up in Fabens, TX which is in our outskirts. Now I see it's chile con carne. The Mexican version of Texas Chili. That is too cool. Have you come up with any other info on the name, E. Scott?

I haven't followed up on it. I did followup on a place in Richmond, VA that sold BBQ back in 1885 and found a "Visitor's Guide to Richmond, VA" from around 1885 which was like a time machine. The street names have changed so much and the old visitor guide had a map in it so I was able to figure out the modern names for the streets.

I haven't found anything like that for El Paso.

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZILLA

But it was El Paso.....

He he! Yeah, but it's still Texas BBQ. I have more great info on El Paso BBQ but it will have to wait for another time to be revealed.

The "market" style of TX BBQ was created at around the turn of the 20th century and was influenced by the same cultures as VA BBQ. In fact, I grew up on "Spotswood Furnace Road" which was a road that led to an iron furnace run by German and Eastern European settlers here in VA just like what you find in Central Texas. About 10 miles west of me is "Germanna" which was a settlement of German immigrants that worked in the iron ore mines.

Central Texas BBQ and Old VA BBQ share a lot of the same roots. The difference is the African American, Native American, English, and West Indies influence that was brought to bear on VA BBQ. But, those other influences were mostly seasoning and not cooking technique.

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 08:49 PM

Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia. I grew up in Spotsylvania County, VA.

Happy Hapgood · 12-28-2012, 09:00 PM

Very Cool!

Lake Dogs · 12-28-2012, 09:02 PM

Awesome, even for a Virginian!

;-)

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Dogs

Awesome, even for a Virginian!

;-)

He he he! Thanks, bro!

Boshizzle · 12-28-2012, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toast

Very Cool!

Thanks, bro. BTW - Louisiana has a rich BBQ history too!

twinsfan · 12-28-2012, 09:08 PM

Very nice... have visited the '64 Spotsylvania battlefield... very nice. Jackson died near there in the summer of '63, if I remember correctly.

12-28-2012, 04:36 PM	#1
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	VA BBQ Used to be Sold in Texas and other States Because of Demand There was a time in this country that when someone thought of BBQ they thought of Virginia. Here is an ad from a place in El Paso, TX that leveraged that image and used to sell "Old Virginia BBQ." The El Paso Herald, July 18, 1914. At the turn of the 20th century, Texas was just beginning their BBQ tradition. VA BBQ had already been legend in our country for about 300 years. Virginia BBQ cooks, stop hanging your heads! VA has a rich BBQ tradition. I will do my part to bring it to light. Here is only a glimpse of what I have dug up in my labor of love. __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

12-28-2012, 05:01 PM	#2
BBQ_Steve Is lookin for wood to cook with. Join Date: 12-27-12 Location: Cypress, TX	Love it! I am a native Virginian (Richmond) who loves living in Texas. However, I will always love my Virginia BBQ. I have convinced numerous Texans to eat their pulled pork sandwich the proper way. With coleslaw on it! __________________ [I]Knowing just enough to be dangerous[/I] Weber Performer Oklahoma Joe Offset Masterbuilt 40

12-28-2012, 05:07 PM	#4
BobBrisket Moderator Join Date: 12-11-07 Location: El Paso, TX Name/Nickname : Bob	WOW! The old Herald Post. That newpaper doesn't exist anymore. That address pulls up in Fabens, TX which is in our outskirts. Now I see it's chile con carne. The Mexican version of Texas Chili. That is too cool. Have you come up with any other info on the name, E. Scott? __________________ PBC-Courtesy of Poobah, 22.5 Weber Kettles-A, K, DR Stamped, 18.5 Weber Bar-B-Kettle Black and Red, Weber 18.5 Smokey Joe Platinum, Weber Genesis Silver, Lil' Chief Smoker, Discada Set Up,OKJ Highland Offset. BobBrisket Jr.-MUDS, WSJ Silver My BEST Compliment....."You're a good cooker, Dad!"--My Son :) Miss You, Marty and Bull! RIP Last edited by BobBrisket; 12-28-2012 at 05:50 PM..

12-28-2012, 05:35 PM	#5
Grabnabber Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-25-10 Location: In the gutter.	Phone # 4854. __________________ Tom

12-28-2012, 06:25 PM	#6
chriscw81 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-01-12 Location: Fredericksburg, VA	Cool, thanks for sharing. Sent from my Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ [B][I][COLOR=black]A Texan transplant[/COLOR][/I][/B] [B][SIZE=1][COLOR=black]UDS \| [COLOR=blue]Blue[/COLOR] Weber Performer Platinum \| Chargriller Akorn \| 22.5 Weber OTG \| WSJ Gold \| Mini WSM \| Maverick ET-73 \| [COLOR=blue]Blue [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Thermapen \| Maverick PT-100 \|[/COLOR] Gasser(charcoal chimney starter)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

12-28-2012, 08:14 PM	#7
ZILLA is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 12-01-05 Location: Universal City, Texas	But it was El Paso.....

12-28-2012, 08:49 PM	#10
Boshizzle somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 01-26-10 Location: Virginia	Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia. I grew up in Spotsylvania County, VA. __________________ Operation BBQ Relief Founding Member - I am Obsessive Compulsive about BBQ. Google it.

12-28-2012, 09:00 PM	#11
Happy Hapgood somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 03-17-12 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Name/Nickname : Mike	Very Cool! __________________ Cooking Equipment: Weber WSM, Weber GA, Weber Spirit E-310, Weber 22" OTG Charbroil Oilless Turkey Fryer Wife LuzziAnn 1956 model. Ink Bird IBBQ 4T Wi-Fi Temp Monitor, Superfast LSU Purple Thermapen & ThermaPop, Party Q Ink Bird Sous Vide, HF Flame Thower My Motto these days is "Low Stress, Low Drag". The Artist Formally Known as Toast

12-28-2012, 09:02 PM	#12
Lake Dogs Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-14-09 Location: Lake Sinclair, GA Name/Nickname : Hance	Awesome, even for a Virginian! ;-) __________________ Hance - MiM/MBN/GBA CBJ and comp cook Lake Sinclair, GA (strategically about an hour from darn near anywhere) My competition daze are probably behind me now; I pretty much cook for family, friends, and frankly the peace and solitude I get from smokin' on an offset... Was Lang 84DX, now Bubba Grills 250R and many Weber grills

12-28-2012, 09:08 PM	#15
twinsfan is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 05-28-11 Location: New Jersey	Very nice... have visited the '64 Spotsylvania battlefield... very nice. Jackson died near there in the summer of '63, if I remember correctly. __________________ Bell Mt. BBQ- Sourland Mountains, NJ, http://bbqapprentice.blogspot.com/