Need insight on Bandera and Brinkman Smoker

JohnMcD348 · 01-28-2005, 05:30 AM

I am new to the "whole Hog" method of smoking and am wanting to graduate from my littl Brinkman water smoker (modified straight from the box) onto one of the larger dual box type smokers that Bandera has. I have been eyeing the Brinkman that looks almost identical at my local Lowe's store but I have not really been able to find out anything good or bad about them. they do not appear on the Brinkman website and the only discussion I have been able to find has been on the HomeBBQ.com website that had 3 seperate short discussions on them about difficulty in getting to and maintaining heat levels above 220. I have not seen a Bandera unit anywhere around my area but I have seen online ads that were nearly twice as much as the Brinkman. I don't really have the finances to spend more than around the $250.00 the Brinkman is sold for but if it is an unusable item, I wouldn't want to waste my money either.
Is there anyone out theere who can give me some definative advice on this matter?

Thanks
John T McD.

kcquer · 01-28-2005, 05:40 AM

John, I have a Brinkmann Smoke King Deluxe. For all practical purposes its a Bandera, same critter just reversed on the layout. The difficulty you read about is common to both units without some "mods" to the firebox. The mods can be found in our 101 document on the home page. Just click on the flame on the lower part of the page.
Either is a great little smoker and hard to beat for the price since they'll hold as much food a much larger units but will cook smaller batches just fine.
Welcome and best of luck on your search, there's lots of fun and friendly advice here no matter what cooker you decide to buy.

chad · 01-28-2005, 05:54 AM

KC - nicely done!

John - I'm sure you'll get an ear full by the end of the day!

Take KC's advice and download the 101 document - it outlines the modifications and methodology of getting the most from the Bandera (or Brinkmann).

Welcome!

racer_81 · 01-28-2005, 11:24 AM

John - go over to Cattle Call and introduce yourself.

Welcome to the site!

BBQchef33 · 01-29-2005, 09:20 AM

The bandera and smoke king do have problems getign to temps, but thats out of gthe box. 1 simple modification, raising the firegrate will eliminate that problem. The existing grate can mbe raised by using a few lava rocks, or fire bricks, or even better, back a reinforced grade out of expanded steel and be done with it. Its simple to do. Next mod is a bagffle to get the heat out and under the waterpan for better heat distribution, otherwise it runs up the inside wall of the chamber and that causes higher temps on one side. Baffle Template is on our files section. Fairly easy to make out of a sheeet of aluminum, or even a cookie sheet.

Like KC says.. grab Bandera 101 from our home page.

jpfeifer · 01-29-2005, 11:50 AM

John- The Brinkmann is good for the price. Several mods needed- first thing is to ditch the low fire grate. I took angle iron and made a shelf for some expanded steel that I use for the fire grate. I had some problems out of the box- 2 shelves, the water pan, and the thermometer were bent and paint was chipping off. I called Brinkman and they mailed replacements to me in about 2 weeks. I would also recommend buying the cover- it's about $45 from Brinkmann, but it's pretty good quality. Also, I'm not sure where you are located, but you can find the smoker on sale for less than $200. Check online, Lowes did a price match when I bought mine.

JohnMcD348 · 01-29-2005, 08:10 PM

Thanks Guys for the insight. I went down to the Lakeland Pig Festival today and actually saw a couple of those types in use. Didn't get to talk to the guys that were using it becuase they were to busy with the competition and were not there to market their meat. I think the beer they were swilling didn't help their demeanor either.

I do have one delima about the Brinkman. It is not on their site. I have tried to contact the company via Email and have not gotten a response. I wonder if they are discontinuing that model of smoker in favor of the horizontal barrel type that seems more common?

BBQchef33 · 01-29-2005, 08:47 PM

dont we have a side by side comparison somewhere on the site... KC and/or Solidkick did it i think.

kcquer · 01-30-2005, 07:22 AM

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I have tried to contact the company via Email and have not gotten a response.

Tried several times to get info from brinkmann via e-mail on their site, never got a response. I got good service from their #800 customer svc dept. The BSKD has never been on their website (don't know why) but they were too glad to send me grates via the phone.

Quote:

dont we have a side by side comparison somewhere on the site... KC

We have the Brinkmann half of the comparison in the Misc Photos section, I could never get anyone to take the corresponding C/B photos.

Solidkick · 01-30-2005, 07:07 PM

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I could never get anyone to take the corresponding C/B photos.

Sorry Bro, I thought we'd posted them side by side. I'll put here and you can move to the picture file, or start a new thread as a comparison.

vash · 01-31-2005, 12:04 AM

Anyone know where I can buy a bandera or BSKD online somewhere? cant seem to find any stores

Joe

JohnMcD348 · 01-31-2005, 05:31 AM

If you gon online to Lowes.com , they have the BSKD there. I am seriously considering one of them myself. I am still looking into it though. I'd like to learn more about the differences between the two as far as design/size, build quality, etc.

JTMcD.

Brian in So Cal · 08-30-2007, 10:41 PM

Anyone tell me where the side by side pic is?
Thanks,
Brian

Rub-A-Dub · 08-30-2007, 11:07 PM

BBQcheif33 pointed me in the right direction. See post #19 in the roadmap form. Lots of good info.

Brian in So Cal · 09-15-2007, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rub-A-Dub

BBQcheif33 pointed me in the right direction. See post #19 in the roadmap form. Lots of good info.

where is the roadmap forum?

01-28-2005, 05:40 AM	#2
kcquer Lives in Spirit Join Date: 02-17-04 Location: Wherever there's Sweet Blue	John, I have a Brinkmann Smoke King Deluxe. For all practical purposes its a Bandera, same critter just reversed on the layout. The difficulty you read about is common to both units without some "mods" to the firebox. The mods can be found in our 101 document on the home page. Just click on the flame on the lower part of the page. Either is a great little smoker and hard to beat for the price since they'll hold as much food a much larger units but will cook smaller batches just fine. Welcome and best of luck on your search, there's lots of fun and friendly advice here no matter what cooker you decide to buy. __________________ Brinkmann Smoke King Deluxe Brinkmann Cimarron Deluxe FE-100 Fast Eddy by Cookshack They give me shivers when they bounce around, buckled up or draggin' on the ground, I like big....Joe Walsh

01-28-2005, 05:54 AM	#3
chad somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: Clearwater, FL	KC - nicely done! John - I'm sure you'll get an ear full by the end of the day! Take KC's advice and download the 101 document - it outlines the modifications and methodology of getting the most from the Bandera (or Brinkmann). Welcome! __________________ Dave Southern Brethren BBQ Competition Team "It's all about getting paid!" - Myron Mixon "I love being hated in my hometown!" - David Hair KingFisher Gator Rotisserie cooker (RIP), WSM (RIP), Stainless 5 burner with IR gas grill (RIP), Turkey Fryer, Weber JD Commemorative grill (RIP), Masterbuilt 40" insulated ELECTRIC smoker (new heating element), Pit Boss Tailgater pellet pooper.

01-28-2005, 11:24 AM	#4
racer_81 Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Richmond, TX	John - go over to Cattle Call and introduce yourself. Welcome to the site! __________________ This Space Left Intentionally Blank

01-29-2005, 09:20 AM	#5
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	The bandera and smoke king do have problems getign to temps, but thats out of gthe box. 1 simple modification, raising the firegrate will eliminate that problem. The existing grate can mbe raised by using a few lava rocks, or fire bricks, or even better, back a reinforced grade out of expanded steel and be done with it. Its simple to do. Next mod is a bagffle to get the heat out and under the waterpan for better heat distribution, otherwise it runs up the inside wall of the chamber and that causes higher temps on one side. Baffle Template is on our files section. Fairly easy to make out of a sheeet of aluminum, or even a cookie sheet. Like KC says.. grab Bandera 101 from our home page. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

01-29-2005, 08:10 PM	#7
JohnMcD348 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-27-05 Location: Lakeland, FL	Thanks Guys for the insight. I went down to the Lakeland Pig Festival today and actually saw a couple of those types in use. Didn't get to talk to the guys that were using it becuase they were to busy with the competition and were not there to market their meat. I think the beer they were swilling didn't help their demeanor either. I do have one delima about the Brinkman. It is not on their site. I have tried to contact the company via Email and have not gotten a response. I wonder if they are discontinuing that model of smoker in favor of the horizontal barrel type that seems more common? __________________ JTMcD. We sleep peaceful in our beds because Rough Men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm.......G. Orwell Brinkman Smoke King Deluxe, The Famous StudeDera, Weber Smokey Joe Gold and Platinum, Brinkman Professional Grill, Brinkman ECB and 2 Weber Smoky Mountians

01-28-2005, 05:30 AM	#1
JohnMcD348 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-27-05 Location: Lakeland, FL	Need insight on Bandera and Brinkman Smoker I am new to the "whole Hog" method of smoking and am wanting to graduate from my littl Brinkman water smoker (modified straight from the box) onto one of the larger dual box type smokers that Bandera has. I have been eyeing the Brinkman that looks almost identical at my local Lowe's store but I have not really been able to find out anything good or bad about them. they do not appear on the Brinkman website and the only discussion I have been able to find has been on the HomeBBQ.com website that had 3 seperate short discussions on them about difficulty in getting to and maintaining heat levels above 220. I have not seen a Bandera unit anywhere around my area but I have seen online ads that were nearly twice as much as the Brinkman. I don't really have the finances to spend more than around the $250.00 the Brinkman is sold for but if it is an unusable item, I wouldn't want to waste my money either. Is there anyone out theere who can give me some definative advice on this matter? Thanks John T McD.

01-29-2005, 11:50 AM	#6
jpfeifer Found some matches. Join Date: 03-15-04 Location: Chicago	John- The Brinkmann is good for the price. Several mods needed- first thing is to ditch the low fire grate. I took angle iron and made a shelf for some expanded steel that I use for the fire grate. I had some problems out of the box- 2 shelves, the water pan, and the thermometer were bent and paint was chipping off. I called Brinkman and they mailed replacements to me in about 2 weeks. I would also recommend buying the cover- it's about $45 from Brinkmann, but it's pretty good quality. Also, I'm not sure where you are located, but you can find the smoker on sale for less than $200. Check online, Lowes did a price match when I bought mine.

01-29-2005, 08:47 PM	#8
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	dont we have a side by side comparison somewhere on the site... KC and/or Solidkick did it i think. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

01-31-2005, 12:04 AM	#11
vash Found some matches. Join Date: 08-27-04	Anyone know where I can buy a bandera or BSKD online somewhere? cant seem to find any stores Joe

01-31-2005, 05:31 AM	#12
JohnMcD348 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 01-27-05 Location: Lakeland, FL	If you gon online to Lowes.com , they have the BSKD there. I am seriously considering one of them myself. I am still looking into it though. I'd like to learn more about the differences between the two as far as design/size, build quality, etc. JTMcD. __________________ JTMcD. We sleep peaceful in our beds because Rough Men stand ready in the night to visit violence upon those who would do us harm.......G. Orwell Brinkman Smoke King Deluxe, The Famous StudeDera, Weber Smokey Joe Gold and Platinum, Brinkman Professional Grill, Brinkman ECB and 2 Weber Smoky Mountians

08-30-2007, 10:41 PM	#13
Brian in So Cal Babbling Farker Join Date: 02-12-07 Location: canyon Country, Ca, 91387	Anyone tell me where the side by side pic is? Thanks, Brian __________________ www.rocstock.org Blast Off BBQ, Brian K As a matter of fact I am a rocket scientist! Just call me Dad.

08-30-2007, 11:07 PM	#14
Rub-A-Dub Full Fledged Farker Join Date: 08-18-07 Location: seeley, ca	BBQcheif33 pointed me in the right direction. See post #19 in the roadmap form. Lots of good info. __________________ :icon_cool 1 Smoke-N-Pit offset 1 UDS!! 1 Turkey Fryer 1 Homebuilt reverse flow 1 18" Weber

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