Ordering wood, need advice (size, price)

cayenne · 11-04-2004, 03:33 PM

Hello all,

Well, I find myself in a pickle. I had been getting my wood, mixing hickory and mequite at the local sports place where I got my Bandera...Authority Sports. They had been selling bags of logs...about 2 cu ft. I think each..for $9.99.

Well, I don't see them there anymore..and am guessing it is only a seasonal item with them..yet I want to smoke all year. The grocery stores here only sell wood chips and chunks.

I live in New Orleans...not a place where many people even own a fireplace....but, lucked out in the phone book and found some firewood dealers. About 3 left me messages back that they could get hickory and maybe mesquite.

Can ya'll tell me what size I should tell him I need it cut? Also, what are the sizes of loads? I've heard of ricks and chords...but, don't know what exactly size of measure that is. I'm guessing the size of the logs would be about 12-14" and about 3-5 inches wide...is there an official term for log size?

Also, what kind of price do ya'll pay for wood where you live? I expect to pay a bit more here since it isn't common...but, just wanted to get an idea of what ya'll might pay.

Thanks in advance!!

cayenne

BBQchef33 · 11-04-2004, 04:50 PM

my standard response here.. MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE TREE MAN!! Whenever you see a tree guy in the neighboorhood, cut a deal for him to give ya all the wood from fruit and nut trees he comes across. You will wind up with loads of wood for real cheap, or in exchange for a few racks of ribs and butts.

But to answer your question, for the bandera logs no bigger than 7-10 inchs would be best and about the width of a beer can. Get yourself a tree stump and hand ax and you can split them further if ya need to.

a full cord is 4 foot wide x 4high x 8long. A face cord is 4high and 8long and one log deep usually 16-20 inches.

Mark · 11-05-2004, 09:07 AM

Ditto what Phil said. Firewood dealers will be selling standard fireplace-sized logs. They need to be split thin enough so you can chunk them up with a circular saw. Live Oak is native to your area, and assuming you can get out of the urbanized part to get some, works fine for smoking.

parrothead · 11-05-2004, 10:50 AM

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a full cord is 4 foot wide x 4high x 8long. A face cord is 4high and 8long and one log deep usually 16-20 inches

A face is a third of a cord, meaning 16 inch logs. A rick is a fourth of a cord meaning 12 inches long.

John Holmes mod.

As far as prices go, I have been checking into prices lately because of the restaurant. Around here a full cord of cured hickory is $380 Oak about $300

kcquer · 11-05-2004, 11:16 AM

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Oak about $300

It's good to be a MOFO! Cords of oak $160- $180 delivered.

Trout_man22 · 11-05-2004, 11:23 AM

Damn, $300 a cord for oak, here in VA runs about $75 unsplit, $90 split, $110 deliveded and stacked.

Trout

Bill-Chicago · 11-05-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kcquer

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Oak about $300

It's good to be a MOFO! Cords of oak $160- $180 delivered.

Greg, bring truck with you to St Louis next time

cayenne · 11-05-2004, 01:28 PM

Hey, thanx for all the great replies.

I've only smoked with hickory and mesquite...never with oak before.

How does oak compare to these woods? I'm guessing a milder smoke? How hot does it burn compared to H and M?

Thanks again guys....what a great forum.

C

Solidkick · 11-05-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by willkat98

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Originally Posted by kcquer

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Oak about $300

It's good to be a MOFO! Cords of oak $160- $180 delivered.

Greg, bring truck with you to St Louis next time

Does he have to come over on this side of the river?

Solidkick · 11-05-2004, 01:44 PM

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modu...q=getit&lid=32

BTU ratings of wood.

The_Kapn · 11-05-2004, 02:06 PM

Cayenne,
Oak is a good all around wood.
Other woods work great for different meats and impart different flavors, but Oak is "OK" for almost all commom Que meats.

Are you pure "stick burning" or mixing charcoal and wood chunks?
Mixing charcoal and chunks will produce good results and reduce your wood consumption and increase your burn times.
"Different strokes for different folks" here- they both work fine!

Do, you ever get "this way" on I-10?
We are only 6 hrs apart.
If so, give me a "heads up" and I can solve your Oak problem.

TIM

BBQchef33 · 11-05-2004, 02:35 PM

Woods to smoke with

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modu...yes&id_cat=2#1

cayenne · 11-05-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kapndsl

Cayenne,
Oak is a good all around wood.
Other woods work great for different meats and impart different flavors, but Oak is "OK" for almost all commom Que meats.

Are you pure "stick burning" or mixing charcoal and wood chunks?
Mixing charcoal and chunks will produce good results and reduce your wood consumption and increase your burn times.
"Different strokes for different folks" here- they both work fine!

Do, you ever get "this way" on I-10?
We are only 6 hrs apart.
If so, give me a "heads up" and I can solve your Oak problem.

TIM

Well, I think I found about the best deal I can get around here. For first time...gonna just go with half a cord (4x4). I'm getting half hickory (12") and half mesquite (9")...delivered and stacked for $182.50. I had a hard time finding anyone in NOLA for wood, much less a choice in size and variety.

This guy also had cherry and pecan wood too. I've been wanting to try some cherry wood..I hear it is GREAT for fowl, and I'm guessing pecan would be good for fowl as well as maybe seafoods too.

Do ya'll have a preference for wood with a certain type of meat? I definitely prefer mesquite on my briskets...usually a mix of mesquite and hickory....on pork I think I lean more towards hickory.

Well, haven't gotten down to FL in awhile...but, planning on maybe getting on my motorcycle and doing a FL trip next year when the weather starts getting a bit warmer....and the bikini's are making more of an appearance on the beaches....I'll holler if I get down that way....

cayenne :P

The_Kapn · 11-05-2004, 03:05 PM

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Well, haven't gotten down to FL in awhile...but, planning on maybe getting on my motorcycle and doing a FL trip next year when the weather starts getting a bit warmer....and the bikini's are making more of an appearance on the beaches....I'll holler if I get down that way....

Cayenne,

Not to be picky--but we actually North of you

Bikinis "be good" at Panama City--for sure.
Wifey keeps me away from there. Drool Mod

Got a trailer for the scooter? Hard to take Oak home cradled in your arms

Stop in if you get this way.
You will like that Hickory!
Keep it all dry and clear of bugs!
TIM

Neil · 11-06-2004, 06:40 AM

I have a friend who's neighbor just bulldozed over 200 black walnut trees to build a house! It would have been a lot cheaper if the guy would have just bought a cornfield to put the house on but I'm glad he didn't. I'll be experimenting with the black walnut wood in about six months after it has seasoned and report on the results.

11-04-2004, 04:50 PM	#2
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	my standard response here.. MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE TREE MAN!! Whenever you see a tree guy in the neighboorhood, cut a deal for him to give ya all the wood from fruit and nut trees he comes across. You will wind up with loads of wood for real cheap, or in exchange for a few racks of ribs and butts. But to answer your question, for the bandera logs no bigger than 7-10 inchs would be best and about the width of a beer can. Get yourself a tree stump and hand ax and you can split them further if ya need to. a full cord is 4 foot wide x 4high x 8long. A face cord is 4high and 8long and one log deep usually 16-20 inches. __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

11-05-2004, 09:07 AM	#3
Mark somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 08-13-03 Location: St. Peters MO: 38.786730,-90.642551 Name/Nickname : Mark	Ditto what Phil said. Firewood dealers will be selling standard fireplace-sized logs. They need to be split thin enough so you can chunk them up with a circular saw. Live Oak is native to your area, and assuming you can get out of the urbanized part to get some, works fine for smoking. __________________ Dr. Mark (STL) Ph.D. (honorary) Bovine $hitology A thin line separates paranoia from an acute understanding of reality.

11-05-2004, 11:23 AM	#6
Trout_man22 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 05-16-04 Location: Colonial Heights, Virginia	Damn, $300 a cord for oak, here in VA runs about $75 unsplit, $90 split, $110 deliveded and stacked. Trout __________________ Go Green use mercury laced low watt fluorescent bulbs and kill the earth slowly ! "God either exists or He doesn't.... I believe in God." Blaise Pascal I'm a sinner, I regret my sin and will try to never do it again.

11-05-2004, 01:44 PM	#10
Solidkick somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-21-03 Location: Bandera Owner in Missouri	http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modu...q=getit&lid=32 BTU ratings of wood. __________________ Mr. Kick ------------------------------------------------ *Belly Brothers BBQ Team* "Sister Flame" Spicewine Trailer Smoker,Modified Bandera, Uni-Flame Chicken Cooker with a Spicewine Thermometer mod,Kingsford Barrel cooker and a super fast RED thermapen KC always said "fat cap up!!

11-05-2004, 02:06 PM	#11
The_Kapn Moderator Emeritus Join Date: 04-08-04 Location: Marianna, FL Name/Nickname : Tim	Cayenne, Oak is a good all around wood. Other woods work great for different meats and impart different flavors, but Oak is "OK" for almost all commom Que meats. Are you pure "stick burning" or mixing charcoal and wood chunks? Mixing charcoal and chunks will produce good results and reduce your wood consumption and increase your burn times. "Different strokes for different folks" here- they both work fine! Do, you ever get "this way" on I-10? We are only 6 hrs apart. If so, give me a "heads up" and I can solve your Oak problem. TIM __________________ "Flirtin' with Disaster" BBQ Team (RETIRED) New Ninja Woodfired Grill for Christmas 2023

11-04-2004, 03:33 PM	#1
cayenne is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-12-04 Location: New Orleans	Ordering wood, need advice (size, price) Hello all, Well, I find myself in a pickle. I had been getting my wood, mixing hickory and mequite at the local sports place where I got my Bandera...Authority Sports. They had been selling bags of logs...about 2 cu ft. I think each..for $9.99. Well, I don't see them there anymore..and am guessing it is only a seasonal item with them..yet I want to smoke all year. The grocery stores here only sell wood chips and chunks. I live in New Orleans...not a place where many people even own a fireplace....but, lucked out in the phone book and found some firewood dealers. About 3 left me messages back that they could get hickory and maybe mesquite. Can ya'll tell me what size I should tell him I need it cut? Also, what are the sizes of loads? I've heard of ricks and chords...but, don't know what exactly size of measure that is. I'm guessing the size of the logs would be about 12-14" and about 3-5 inches wide...is there an official term for log size? Also, what kind of price do ya'll pay for wood where you live? I expect to pay a bit more here since it isn't common...but, just wanted to get an idea of what ya'll might pay. Thanks in advance!! cayenne

11-05-2004, 01:28 PM	#8
cayenne is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 06-12-04 Location: New Orleans	Hey, thanx for all the great replies. I've only smoked with hickory and mesquite...never with oak before. How does oak compare to these woods? I'm guessing a milder smoke? How hot does it burn compared to H and M? Thanks again guys....what a great forum. C

11-05-2004, 02:35 PM	#12
BBQchef33 Grand Poobah and Site Admin Join Date: 08-11-03 Location: Long Island, NY Name/Nickname : Phil	Woods to smoke with http://www.bandera-brethren.com/modu...yes&id_cat=2#1 __________________ Site Administrator and Grand PooBah CBJ with a Fuzzy Blue Hat, 18 Foot Competition Trailer, Customized Klose BYC, Custom Built Shirley built to feed our Veterans(A.K.A "Abrams"), 1 Double Barreled Lang 84, 1 Heavily Modified Bionic Bandera, 1 Custom Super Medium Stickburning Spicewine w/stoker, 2 XL BGE, 1 Mini BGE, 2 Pit Barrel Cookers, 3 WSMs, 3 Weber Kettles, an NB Hondo, A Modified Brinkman Horizontal, DCS 48" Grill, a Broilmaster P3, a Blackstone 36 and 17, a covered, pellet pooping FEC100, and our duck died. :( News Flash: "A mans worth is judged by the weight of his integrity " You know your getting older when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy Smoke on KC. WWW.BBQ-BRETHREN.COM

11-06-2004, 06:40 AM	#15
Neil Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-04-04 Location: St. Joseph, MI	I have a friend who's neighbor just bulldozed over 200 black walnut trees to build a house! It would have been a lot cheaper if the guy would have just bought a cornfield to put the house on but I'm glad he didn't. I'll be experimenting with the black walnut wood in about six months after it has seasoned and report on the results. __________________ "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find you get what you need" Mange Bene Viva Bene! Old Country Over/Under, Weber: 18.5" WSM, 22.5" WSM, Weber Performer(Col. Steve Austin Mod), Two 22.5" Kettles, & a Smokey Joe; Old Country 36" griddle, Luhr-Jensen Big Chief, Turkey Fryer, Rocky Mountain Camp Stove and a UDS.

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