Brisket Experiment

landarc · 07-27-2011, 11:53 AM

Well, it had to happen, I decided to try injecting a brisket. And since I was going there, I went with a 15 pound choice grade packer brisket that was trimmed of most of the fat and injected with a test injection. Now, most folks will use a beef broth or commercial injection formula that either is designed to make a brisket taste more beefy (not sure why this is necessary) or to literally change the nature of the brisket. This second option I totally understand. If I was going to compete, I would use something like Butcher's Injection (which I have two bags of) for it's proven flavor and texture improvements. But, I am going for an augmentation of flavor my way, so I made my own.

In doing this, I was really trying to augment the savory profiles of the beef without really changing the flavor of the meat. I went with some proven elements for my taste palette. Onions, carrots, garlic, dried shiitake mushrooms, Bragg's Amino Acids and Red Boat fish sauce. I am hoping to get a blend of the aromatics and umami elements with the addition of some sodium as well.

Bob's Test Injection
1 small onion
4 small carrots
2 cloves garlic
3 shiitake mushrooms, dried
1/4 cup Bragg's Aminos
1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons Red Boat Fish Sauce
6 cups water

I brought the water to a boil, reduced to a simmer and added everything but 2 tablespoons of fish sauce. After 10 minutes and back to a simmer, I cut the heat and let it steep until cool. This was bottled and allowed to sit for 2 days. Upon opening, gave it the sniff and taste test. It smelled great, no fish smell, no funkiness, just a nice aromatic blend, I would liken to a vegetable version of demi-glace. It was a little intense and salty in terms of taste. But, no matter, I used two cups to inject the brisket until it started rejecting the liquid. Into the fridge for now.

deguerre · 07-27-2011, 11:56 AM

Oooooooo...that sounds good. Nice to see another non-traditional brisket injection. Awaiting the results.

gtr · 07-27-2011, 11:59 AM

ya start smoking, then yer injecting....

Sound very interesting - looking forward to the rest!

I gotta pick me up some of that Bragg's.

Matt_A · 07-27-2011, 12:04 PM

Sounds like it could be a contender in this weeks Brisket Throwdown.

monty3777 · 07-27-2011, 12:09 PM

I'm getting awful bored with competition brisket. This should be fun to try!

Saiko · 07-27-2011, 12:11 PM

Fish sauce and smoked brisket, now there's a first! Looking forward to the results. I just came back from RD and am going to fire up a brisky on Sunday myself.

landarc · 07-27-2011, 12:18 PM

Well, I had hoped to have it on sooner, but, work is causing delays

, I am thinking it goes on at 3ish, which means I pull at 8 or 9, rest to 11, looks like a late night snack tonight. I do have onions and pickles ready to go though

HawgNationBBQ · 07-27-2011, 12:20 PM

Is it done yet?

5-0 BBQ · 07-27-2011, 12:20 PM

Sounds good. Let see some pics.

Groundhog66 · 07-27-2011, 12:25 PM

That injection sounds great Bob, I look forward to hearing your feedback.

colonel00 · 07-27-2011, 12:27 PM

Very interested and subscribed. Looking forward to the results.

landarc · 07-27-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HawgNationBBQ

Is it done yet?

Not yet, now sit down back there and quit messing with your little brother...don't make me come back there!

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Originally Posted by 5-0 BBQ

Sounds good. Let see some pics.

My neighbors are gonna wonder 'what is that danged fool doing with that flash at midnight now'

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Originally Posted by Groundhog66

That injection sounds great Bob, I look forward to hearing your feedback.

If it is even halfway good, I am coming out there and making you appreciate a few slices!

dealm9 · 07-27-2011, 12:46 PM

that sounds very interesting. cannot wait to see the results. just curious, why the liquid amino acids?

bigabyte · 07-27-2011, 01:03 PM

Looking forward to it!

Ron_L · 07-27-2011, 01:19 PM

Was it hard to get the onions through the injector?

07-27-2011, 11:53 AM	#1
landarc somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-26-09 Location: sAn leAnDRo, CA	Brisket Experiment Well, it had to happen, I decided to try injecting a brisket. And since I was going there, I went with a 15 pound choice grade packer brisket that was trimmed of most of the fat and injected with a test injection. Now, most folks will use a beef broth or commercial injection formula that either is designed to make a brisket taste more beefy (not sure why this is necessary) or to literally change the nature of the brisket. This second option I totally understand. If I was going to compete, I would use something like Butcher's Injection (which I have two bags of) for it's proven flavor and texture improvements. But, I am going for an augmentation of flavor my way, so I made my own. In doing this, I was really trying to augment the savory profiles of the beef without really changing the flavor of the meat. I went with some proven elements for my taste palette. Onions, carrots, garlic, dried shiitake mushrooms, Bragg's Amino Acids and Red Boat fish sauce. I am hoping to get a blend of the aromatics and umami elements with the addition of some sodium as well. Bob's Test Injection 1 small onion 4 small carrots 2 cloves garlic 3 shiitake mushrooms, dried 1/4 cup Bragg's Aminos 1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons Red Boat Fish Sauce 6 cups water I brought the water to a boil, reduced to a simmer and added everything but 2 tablespoons of fish sauce. After 10 minutes and back to a simmer, I cut the heat and let it steep until cool. This was bottled and allowed to sit for 2 days. Upon opening, gave it the sniff and taste test. It smelled great, no fish smell, no funkiness, just a nice aromatic blend, I would liken to a vegetable version of demi-glace. It was a little intense and salty in terms of taste. But, no matter, I used two cups to inject the brisket until it started rejecting the liquid. Into the fridge for now. __________________ [COLOR=DarkGreen][COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=1]me: I don't drink anymore Yelonutz: me either, but, then again, I don't drink any less [/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][SIZE=1][COLOR=DarkRed] [COLOR=Pink]SSS[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

07-27-2011, 11:56 AM	#2
deguerre somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 07-15-09 Location: Memphis, TN...Formerly of Decatur, AL	Oooooooo...that sounds good. Nice to see another non-traditional brisket injection. Awaiting the results. __________________ Guerry [FONT=Book Antiqua]Pit Beeatch for Team Munchkin[/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][B]Avatar by Northwest BBQ [/B][/FONT]"...In nature, there are predators. I believe the common denominator of the universe is not harmony, but chaos, hostility and murder..." Werner Herzog Last edited by deguerre; 07-27-2011 at 02:57 PM.. Reason: farkin' spellin' issues

07-27-2011, 11:59 AM	#3
gtr somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 10-16-10 Location: Culver City, CA	ya start smoking, then yer injecting.... Sound very interesting - looking forward to the rest! I gotta pick me up some of that Bragg's. __________________ 50" Klose BYC, Spitjack XB85, 22.5 WSM, Backwoods Chubby, UDS, WRK, 26" & 22.5" Weber Kettles, Jumbo Joe, WGA, WSJ/MUDS, Kanka Grill, a piece of expanded metal I throw over the fire pit sometimes, Stealthy Black & Vol Orange Thermapens Displaced East Tennesseean Proud recipient of a Tick Former outlaw MOINK baller, now IMBAS Certified, but still lookin' over my shoulder. "Relax, it's only BBQ." - Bigmista, 2013 "Don't worry about playing a lot of notes. Just find one pretty one." - Miles Davis Avatar by my son! WTFWGALD?

07-27-2011, 12:04 PM	#4
Matt_A is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 07-19-11 Location: Moore, Oklahoma	Sounds like it could be a contender in this weeks Brisket Throwdown. __________________ [B]Matt Armistead[/B]

07-27-2011, 12:09 PM	#5
monty3777 is One Chatty Farker Join Date: 07-13-08 Location: Happytown, IA	I'm getting awful bored with competition brisket. This should be fun to try! __________________ John 21:9

07-27-2011, 12:11 PM	#6
Saiko is Blowin Smoke! Join Date: 12-24-03 Location: Kennesaw, GA	Fish sauce and smoked brisket, now there's a first! Looking forward to the results. I just came back from RD and am going to fire up a brisky on Sunday myself. __________________ "Whose chopper is this?" "It's Zed's." "Who's Zed?" "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead."

07-27-2011, 12:18 PM	#7
landarc somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 06-26-09 Location: sAn leAnDRo, CA	Well, I had hoped to have it on sooner, but, work is causing delays , I am thinking it goes on at 3ish, which means I pull at 8 or 9, rest to 11, looks like a late night snack tonight. I do have onions and pickles ready to go though __________________ [COLOR=DarkGreen][COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=1]me: I don't drink anymore Yelonutz: me either, but, then again, I don't drink any less [/SIZE][/COLOR][/COLOR][SIZE=1][COLOR=DarkRed] [COLOR=Pink]SSS[/COLOR] [/COLOR][/SIZE]

07-27-2011, 12:20 PM	#8
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07-27-2011, 12:20 PM	#9
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07-27-2011, 12:25 PM	#10
Groundhog66 Babbling Farker Join Date: 08-20-10 Location: Livermore, CA Name/Nickname : Tim	That injection sounds great Bob, I look forward to hearing your feedback. __________________ Backwoods Party G2 MAK 1 Star XL BGE SM BGE Weber 26" & JJ Blackstone 36" & 22" Brick Santa Maria Pit

07-27-2011, 12:27 PM	#11
colonel00 Quintessential Chatty Farker Join Date: 06-03-10 Location: Shawnee, KS	Very interested and subscribed. Looking forward to the results. __________________ Brad [URL="https://www.instagram.com/bradsimmons00/"]Some of my photos on Instagram [/URL] [SIZE=1][I][COLOR=red]Proud owner of the PentaZero[/COLOR][/I][/SIZE] :whoo: [B][COLOR=red]WWWWFBBQADD[/COLOR][/B] [B]0 out of 1 members found this post helpful[/B] :thumb: “I dream of a better tomorrow, where chickens can cross the road and not be questioned about their motives.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

07-27-2011, 12:46 PM	#13
dealm9 is one Smokin' Farker Join Date: 04-22-11 Location: Cleveland, OH	that sounds very interesting. cannot wait to see the results. just curious, why the liquid amino acids? __________________ Mark...UDS, 22.5 weber knock-off kettle, gasser. GO BROWNS!!!

07-27-2011, 01:03 PM	#14
bigabyte somebody shut me the fark up. Join Date: 05-10-06 Location: Overland Fark, KS	Looking forward to it! __________________ Asshattatron Farkanaut, CGCFO Chief Galactic Crockpot Foil Officer *Certified MOINK Baller & IMBAS Certified MOINK Ball Judge #0003 - Are you MOINK Certified?* *Sole recipient of the Silverfinger and fingerlickin Awards!* Don't forget about the Throwdown Thingies! The Secret Squirrel Society doesn't exist - Zero Club Duh.

07-27-2011, 01:19 PM	#15
Ron_L Moderator Join Date: 12-09-04 Location: Wandering, but not lost Name/Nickname : Captain Ron	Was it hard to get the onions through the injector? __________________ "Ron Rico, Boss. You can call me Captain Ron..." Naked Fatties Rock! PKGo X 2/PK360/Weber Q1000/Blackstone Camping Griddle/Pit Boss Pro Series 850