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06-03-2008, 04:03 AM | #1111 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 03-28-08
Location: Downey, California
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06-03-2008, 09:45 AM | #1112 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 07-11-06
Location: Norco, Ca.
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Since this thread is so long.....
And it seems same questions keep coming up I am reposting some of my thoughts on UDS builds.
I have not made a drum with tall intakes. But I have tracked builds and first time uses. I noticed 2 things. People that use 1/2 nipples seem to have problems getting to higher temps and take longer to getup, or they compensate with starting a larger fire and make it through. The only long intake drums i have seen work from the get go are ones that use 1" pipe and magnets. I think N8's is like that. Others have used 3/4" and only 2/3 up cans that seem to get control, better with only 1 elbow. People that have intakes near or above top of can seem to have total caos. I have seen people make bigger exhaust and get better temps but I would bet they don't have control. You have to remember all this UDS stuff is modeled after a basic BDS. Ask Thirdeye how easy it is to control and change temps from first burn. Some might disagree but on this forum. I first spotted Mista's drum and one a member started making known as EDS (Eds Drum Smoker). Mistas worked for him but access door leaked and intakes were crude torch cut holes. The EDS used holes with welded in nuts and bolts to plug holes. He also had a door and had sealing issues. I made mine and put a valve on it for control I got the idea from reading about how Stumps smokers controlled temps by controlling air intake and limiting fire. I will tell you from my first burn on the only issues I have had was when i did a trash man slam with my drum and made it slightly out of round. I use the band clamp to seal lid now. The other issue I had was getting temps up and i attributed that to my charcoal drawing moisture. I went to a new bag and problem solved. Not to say you can't learn to control what you have built but look at the simple builds and notice they are happy from the get go. Look at Swampb who uses conduit plugs much like BDS and he has made several and even passed them on and all are cooking fiends now. Look at NotleyQ and he is cranking out awesome grub time and time again. Look at the ones Smookin has built. Ask Fatdaddy about his drum. I think he was about to back over it with his truck and if i remember right he went twords the basics and learned to use what he made. All this is just my opinion from following the threads. It is fun to out cool the next guy but some things work and some don't. I just advise if you are limited on resources and want a cooker that the masses here can advise on, go simple basic build. It will make it through and produce great grub. And while it is chugging away you can work on the mother of all drums and come back and toss my opinions out the door. Found EDS Ahh Modlemaker http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...ds+drum+smoker Neils first http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...=barrel+smoker http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...highlight=drum |
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06-03-2008, 10:20 AM | #1113 |
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Join Date: 09-12-07
Location: Port Hueneme , CA
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Norco's opinion is great. I want to second it. When I did the Team UDS build couple of weeks ago KISS was the mantra of the build. Two guys had no low and slow experience one had a little.
list 8 bolts, nuts and washers handle of your choice 2" pvc male adapter and 6 or 7" of pvc pipe Fire grate and cooking grate for weber 22.5 " kettle rebar tieing wire expanded metal 6 or 7" X 48" Temp gauge for the side flexible magnets 2 of the guys used credit card magnets they recieved in the mail drill 8 holes, three for the air intake three for the cooking grate support 2 in the lid for handle and hanger Temp control has been great. all drums have a sweet spot for temps. On these drums it is easy to find. KISS Baby
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06-03-2008, 10:23 AM | #1114 |
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Join Date: 12-15-07
Location: England
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Thing is they are a bit heavy so using anything under 1/2'' would be painful on the tool.
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06-03-2008, 10:23 AM | #1115 | |
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06-03-2008, 09:01 PM | #1116 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 05-17-08
Location: Columbia Tennessee
Name/Nickname : Scott
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Well, heck I'll play! I have a UDS 1.0 and just built UDS 2.0
UDS 1.0 has a 1-1/4" air inlet up the side of the drum made out of conduit and welded into place. It also has 3-1/2 "nippels welded 2" from the bottom of the barrel. the exhust was 3 feet high, but it was to high so i made it a 2" conduit 8" long welded in th bung hole. the basket is 14x6 and the grate is 6" from the top of the barrel the legth on the barrel is 48" tall. The UDS 2.0 has four 1/2" nippels, one of the nippels has a 1/2" ball valve on it. the exhust is a 2" inch conduit sanded down and buffed with a polishing wheel, and held in the center of the lid with a 2" EMT set screw connecter. The nippels are 1-1/2" from the bottom of the barrel and are held together by lock rings. the basket is 14x6 and the grate sits 6" from the top of the barrel. the barrel is 43" tall. My fingers are tiered from typing so enjoy the pics.
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06-03-2008, 09:24 PM | #1117 |
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I'm just getting into making my first UDS.
What purpose or advantage does the longer inlet and outlet stacks serve?
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06-03-2008, 09:31 PM | #1118 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: New Baltimore, Mi.
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Hmmmm, looks very familiar.
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06-03-2008, 09:34 PM | #1119 |
somebody shut me the fark up.
Join Date: 05-03-07
Location: New Baltimore, Mi.
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I'm not going to bad mouth either set-up but IMO the longer inlet and exhaust are more for looks.
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06-03-2008, 09:53 PM | #1120 |
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Join Date: 05-28-08
Location: Hartford, MI
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They do look very cool but for my first UDS I'll keep it simple.
I'll chrome one out and add DUB's after I can prove to myself I can build my first one. I think I can. I think I can. I think I can.
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06-03-2008, 10:22 PM | #1121 |
Got Wood.
Join Date: 05-17-08
Location: Columbia Tennessee
Name/Nickname : Scott
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ya the functionality wasn't quit there in the UDS 1.0 (long exhaust and intake up the side) That's why there is UDS 2.0 And your right bubba it does look familiar
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06-03-2008, 11:36 PM | #1123 |
Is lookin for wood to cook with.
Join Date: 05-03-08
Location: San Diego
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i am currently working on my UDS. i just have to questions.
1- the charcoal basket i'm making is from expanded metal 7" tall wrapped around a webber 18" charcoal grate. the grate sits about 2" up. after building it just seems large. can the basket be too big? should i try and build a smaller one? 2- i'm planning on putting 2 racks. the diamiter of my barrel i almost exactly 22.5. am i going to have a problem getting the cooking grates in and out the bolts sticking in wards? has anyone have this problem? |
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06-04-2008, 12:02 AM | #1124 |
is One Chatty Farker
Join Date: 09-12-07
Location: Port Hueneme , CA
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Here are pics of UDS#1 2" side intake 3"X 14" exhaust now reduced to 8" 's
UDS#2 KISS mod 3 3/4" intake holes adujusted by flexable magnets and 2' X 7" PVC exhaust
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06-04-2008, 12:15 AM | #1125 | |
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shortened the UDS #1 ? does it work better now and hows the PVC been holding up on #2 ? Good looking builds for sure and GREAT PIC of you and #2
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