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Unread 06-29-2009, 12:55 PM   #3496
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Unread 06-29-2009, 01:07 PM   #3497
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Cool...did you sand and prime first...or just sand?
The really nice thing about this paint is it requires NO primer. So sand and paint it was.
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Unread 06-29-2009, 01:38 PM   #3498
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Helljack parts sent for ya. If your Weber lid doesn't fit think about maybe cutting the drum rim every 1" and bang it in with a hammer till it does fit.
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Unread 06-29-2009, 02:31 PM   #3499
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I measured my barrels this weekend while I was plotting where various holes are going. My barrel diameter is 23 1/2" so I need to come up with something for a modified dome lid. I've seen it before where you could just buy replacement weber kettle lids but I can't remeber where it was. HELP!!!! LMAO.
Here's a possible fix to consider since your barrell is a bit wider diameter than the lid of a Weber kettle. If you can obtain a stock flat lid that fits your drum, you can cut out about 22 inches of it and just keep the ring. That ring goes on the tip lip of the drum to make the diameter a little smaller.

Another possible fix is to just get the ring that holds a standard barrel lid on the the barrel. Cut off the bolt ends of the ring and weld the ring to the inside of the barrel. If you don't weld then drill and pop rivet. Anyway, the effect is the same; to make the inside diameter smaller so the Weber kettle ring fits.

This is the best I can explain it. I hope its sufficient.
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Started reading this thread and needed to built a drum smoker since page 4. Question I bought the cheepo uni flame walmart 22.5 grill and the lid just about fits. Do i bent the crimp on the lid straight out and let it sit flat on the lip of the drum or does it have to over lap the lip of the drum in some way to lock it down? If I straighten it out it looks like it will sit right on the top of the drum lip.

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Unread 06-29-2009, 09:54 PM   #3501
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Started reading this thread and needed to built a drum smoker since page 4. Question I bought the cheepo uni flame walmart 22.5 grill and the lid just about fits. Do i bent the crimp on the lid straight out and let it sit flat on the lip of the drum or does it have to over lap the lip of the drum in some way to lock it down? If I straighten it out it looks like it will sit right on the top of the drum lip.

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That is the one i have on mines. and I have a little bit of both going. First I flattened it completely, and let it rest on the top of the drum. but it got too hard to regulate temp because not a good seal. so then i tried to bend it to fit. and the lip is not quite big enough to fit all around, so half of it is bent, and the other half lays flat. on the flat portion, i have a couple various clamps that i use to clamp it down to give it a good seal.

Does that make any since?
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Unread 06-29-2009, 10:38 PM   #3502
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This is the greatest thread ever, I finally finished the whole thing (took me over 3 days).

I now have almost all of the parts for my build, am picking up a drum tomorrow from the manufacturer ($35 new OT unlined)

I will post pics as soon as possible.

Thanks to the mods and everyone on the forum who has contributed to this thread.

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Unread 06-30-2009, 06:27 AM   #3503
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All,

Just a few items:

1) could everyone with a 55 gallon smoker please post the inside depth (from bottom of drum to lip where lid sits and the diameter of your drum? With all the talk about how a weber lid does or doesn't fit I would like to see what the deviation is.

2) I have heard alot about flipping the meat although with my current smoker (just a small vertical with propane burner then wood holder then water pan I have never flipped. What my current idea is is to have a rack just above the charcoal basket with a large disposable lasagna pan (ie the tin foil ones you can buy at any grocery store) filled with water/wine etc. Will that reduce the need to flip the meat?

3) How many people have more than 1 rack? I would like to put multiple racks in (or at least have the hardware in if I need extra volume) and I can understand why you would want a certain distance if its just the food above the coals but once again does the water pan help to mitigate the high direct heat so that multiple grills would work?

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Started reading this thread and needed to built a drum smoker since page 4. Question I bought the cheepo uni flame walmart 22.5 grill and the lid just about fits. Do i bent the crimp on the lid straight out and let it sit flat on the lip of the drum or does it have to over lap the lip of the drum in some way to lock it down? If I straighten it out it looks like it will sit right on the top of the drum lip.

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FLSmoker, i had bought the uniflame grill and had the same issues as you with the lid. i bent, beat, tortured, and shed tears over the lid not fitting well.

instead of using the lid, here's what i did:

i put the original flat lid back on the drum, and pounded it into place so that it would not come loose. then i took a sawzall and cut a hole in it, leaving a 1" lip. i took the bottom part of the grill, and VOILA - it was a perfect fit. i found a stove pipe joint and flange, and with a few bolts have an airtight lid. now i need to find a 4" damper for that exhaust, a lid handle or two, and the "snork" (as i call it) will be complete. i think the lower part of the uniflame is a heavier gauge than the lid; just something to think about.

note - it is a big 4" exhaust, but i've managed to use a magnet as a damper for the time being. in combo with the 3/4" pipe nipple and ball valve my UDS has held 225 for ~6hrs, the longest smoke i've done on it to date (beef ribs below)...



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Started reading this thread and needed to built a drum smoker since page 4. Question I bought the cheepo uni flame walmart 22.5 grill and the lid just about fits. Do i bent the crimp on the lid straight out and let it sit flat on the lip of the drum or does it have to over lap the lip of the drum in some way to lock it down? If I straighten it out it looks like it will sit right on the top of the drum lip.

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My drum is an open top type that has the flat lid and lock ring.
I have a UniFlame as well, first tried to bend out to go over the drum lip. Didn't work.
Then I bent inward a little and with some persuasion it fit nice an tight inside and rests on the support bolts for my top grate.
Couple of the UniFlame and orginal top.


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instead of using the lid, here's what i did:

i put the original flat lid back on the drum, and pounded it into place so that it would not come loose. then i took a sawzall and cut a hole in it, leaving a 1" lip. i took the bottom part of the grill, and VOILA - it was a perfect fit.
That's basically what I tried explaining. It's better with pics.
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How would you attach your 12" deep fryer thermometer if it doesn't have a threaded stem and locking nut? The one I have is a TruTemp 12"
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Just used a drill press to drill a hole (barely larger than the therm) through the center of a 3/4" bolt, secured that with a flat washer and nut. Used the pot/kettle clamp to keep the therm in place during the cooks.
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Iam cooking ribs right now and Iam eaten tonight! Thanks to all of you for helping me get this smoker project done and working. The reason for the tin foil is that I don't want to hammer up my Weber lid. I'am still looking for a used one for the UDS.

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How would you attach your 12" deep fryer thermometer if it doesn't have a threaded stem and locking nut? The one I have is a TruTemp 12"
This is what I used. The no drill method. The brass thing is some kind of water line fitting. Got it at HD. $1.72

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