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Unread 06-25-2009, 05:37 AM   #3451
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Same build, 85 runs even smoother than it's little brother. 250 at center grate all day long!
If you can find one, build it!

I'll second that!! I love playing around with mine! Only difference between my 85 and 55 gallon drums is I have 4 intake vents.

Hey Meat Burner- the 15 gallon drum is a blast too!
If you have a Weber Smokey Joe you are set!
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Unread 06-25-2009, 07:04 AM   #3452
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Barbarian,

Thanks for the pics! Yes, thats pretty much what I wanted to do although I was just going to put the coals on one of my normal cooking racks with foil on it or something like that and lower the "grilling" food grate down a bit so that I can use the flat lid.

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Unread 06-25-2009, 07:32 AM   #3453
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Ultimate thread! I scored a couple of 55 gallons that contained syrup. This thread got my drum built and it works really well...thanks
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Unread 06-25-2009, 10:24 AM   #3454
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OK, I've now read the entire thread and am all set to start my build. My one question that I have that I don't recall being answered is when using the Weber lid, if you have to make the mod with the top 2 inches of the kettle inserted into the top of your drum in order for the lid to fit. How is the insert secured into the drum? I'm doubting it slides in and makes a tight seal does it? Can anyone help here?
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Unread 06-25-2009, 10:57 AM   #3455
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HawkeyeQue:

Sometimes you get lucky and the Weber lid fits the lip of the drum perfectly. . Most of the time you have to cut the lip of the drum to fit the Weber lid or cut off 2-inches or so of the Weber kettle base and fix it to the top of the drum.
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Unread 06-25-2009, 11:30 AM   #3456
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All,

I live north of Atlanta and the best deal I have found so far is a reconditioned (ie rinsed) food grade barrel for about $25. Does anyone know of a better deal anywhere in the atlanta area? Would be willing to drive for a good deal but with today's gas prices it would have to be looked at.

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Unread 06-25-2009, 12:54 PM   #3457
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Sometimes you get lucky and the Weber lid fits the lip of the drum perfectly. . Most of the time you have to cut the lip of the drum to fit the Weber lid or cut off 2-inches or so of the Weber kettle base and fix it to the top of the drum.

Mark, when you say "fix it to the top of the drum" what do you mean by that? That is the question I have. I understand the why's I just don't get the how right now. I don't think it's ever been discussed in this thread. I'm doing mine with no welds so how would I get that 2 inch ring "fixed" to the top of my drum?

Also, another question that just came up as I went to HD over lunch. Expanded steel is damn expensive. It's $19 for a 24x24 sheet. Is there a better outlet for this than HD? is it easy to cut? will HD cut it for me? Thanks,
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OK, I've now read the entire thread and am all set to start my build. My one question that I have that I don't recall being answered is when using the Weber lid, if you have to make the mod with the top 2 inches of the kettle inserted into the top of your drum in order for the lid to fit. How is the insert secured into the drum? I'm doubting it slides in and makes a tight seal does it? Can anyone help here?
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Mark, when you say "fix it to the top of the drum" what do you mean by that? That is the question I have. I understand the why's I just don't get the how right now. I don't think it's ever been discussed in this thread. I'm doing mine with no welds so how would I get that 2 inch ring "fixed" to the top of my drum?

Also, another question that just came up as I went to HD over lunch. Expanded steel is damn expensive. It's $19 for a 24x24 sheet. Is there a better outlet for this than HD? is it easy to cut? will HD cut it for me? Thanks,
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Unread 06-25-2009, 01:28 PM   #3459
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HawkeyeQue:

Perhaps the easiest way of mounting the top 2 inches of a Weber kettle base to the top of a drum is with red silicone.

Personally, this is the last method I would use as it just looks kind of crude to me. Not as bad as hammering out a Weber lid to fit a drum though.

My apologies to those who used either of these methods.

As for expanded steel. previous reports were that ACE hardware had better prices.
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Unread 06-25-2009, 03:37 PM   #3460
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Thanks Mark,

Bubba, trust me, I have read every single post in here. It's taken me about a week to do so.
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Unread 06-25-2009, 09:55 PM   #3461
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This thread is crazy long ..to find my answer. I just bought some expanded metal to extend my Backwoods Party firebox. I just went 4 inches higher then the standard box. I fastened it together with some rods that I had to bend with tools. It's really too thick to work with. So I just put it together enough for a cook to see how it works.

What's everyone using to fasten their expanded metal? Any pics?

Thanks!!
Did you see my post a page back? - rebar tie wire worked well for me. Any home center will have it. A pair of lineman's pliers (also called Kleins) and you can twist it up and snip easily.

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Got some scrap expanded metal from a friend who owns a metal fab shop. It was only about 5" tall, but very heavy so I didn't fuss one bit.
I didn't want to wait for Monday to go to his shop to weld it up, so used rebar wire tie to connect it.






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Unread 06-26-2009, 10:46 AM   #3462
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Hey everyone, I'm new to the board and this is my first post. I thought I would share pictures of my new UDS that I built....all due to the information on this forum. I did a test cook for the first time last weekend....did some babybacks. Had some trouble maintaining temp above 200 I think due to my smaller charcoal basket. Anyways I plan to fix that this weekend and I'm cooking for a large party this Sunday. Plan on doing some spare ribs, pork butts, and chicken. Hopefully everything turns out well. Anyways here are some pics of my drum while building and cooking.




























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Unread 06-26-2009, 11:27 AM   #3463
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looks like you have plenty of exhaust. How many intakes did you have open? My drum runs 200 with one opened and 2 in exhaust. Your fire basket looks big enough also. Good lookin ribs by the way.
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I have 4 intakes at the bottom which were drilled 1" in diameter and threaded with 3/4" piple nipples. I started out with all 4 open until the temp started getting close to 200 and then closed all but 1. As time went on and my temps started to drop I started taking 1 cap off of each intake until all 4 were open again. My charcaol ring I was using only measured about 7" in diameter. I plan to make it larger so its about 13-14" in diameter. Hopefully that will allow for longer cook times and more steady temp control

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I have 4 intakes at the bottom which were drilled 1" in diameter and threaded with 3/4" piple nipples. I started out with all 4 open until the temp started getting close to 200 and then closed all but 1. As time went on and my temps started to drop I started taking 1 cap off of each intake until all 4 were open again. My charcaol ring I was using only measured about 7" in diameter. I plan to make it larger so its about 13-14" in diameter. Hopefully that will allow for longer cook times and more steady temp control

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The charcoal basket your using, does it have just the holes around the top or do you have holes in the bottom as well? Its hard to tell from your pics. I've seen some people who have the same basket as yourself that cut the bottom out and replace it with expanded metal. Your fire may be choking itself out/not enough air holes in the basket to allow for higher temps.
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