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Unread 04-23-2007, 07:42 AM   #226
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Question Drum Smoker Designs

I know the BDS/UDS upright barrel design seems the most popular and the easiest, but has anyone else found some other drum smoker designs?

I found these (some where already posted by yall):
http://www.mikesell.net/smoker/
http://www.thesmokering.com/pits/metalpit/bigbaby/
http://www.bbqsource-forums.com/invb...?showtopic=615
http://www.wedlinydomowe.com/s_design/s_d_smokers.htm

I like the combination of the pit idea with the Drum attached. Does anyone know how well these designs would work?
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Unread 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM   #227
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That set-up with the pit style smoke generator is a classic cold smoker design that has been in use for hundreds of years. In the old days, every farm had a smoke house and that is the basic design. The elevation of the chamber is the key to get the draw just right. The distance from the generator is what allows the smoke to cool down. Earth is a great insulator so I bet there is little adjustment from summer to winter. I wish I had the room for something like that. I would love to be able to do my own bacon, hams and smoked sausages. It looks like that drum is galvanized. I guess since temperatures will be below 85° it is not an issue like we worry about in a drum used for barbecuing.



This is one of Warren Anderson's homemade smokers with a separate smoke generator. It is a knock-down model. He has plans for several cold smokers he designed in his book Mastering the Craft of Smoking Food. He also discusses hot smoking, cures, supplies and sausages.
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I saw some drums in Arkansas this weekend with resealable lid and reusable clamp $12. Held Rasberry juice guy was selling them for burn barrels.
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I saw some drums in Arkansas this weekend with resealable lid and reusable clamp $12. Held Rasberry juice guy was selling them for burn barrels.
Those would be perfect!!!
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I found a place in Hogeye, AR. Here is their ad:
METAL AND plastic 55 gallon drums for sale. Food grade. Great for food, feed or water storage. Call Hogeye 479-846-3664.
She said most of them held juices.
She also said that there were some others that I might be interested in. People use them to make wood burning heaters for shops and things. They are a little "heavier duty" but they held factory lubracants of some sort.
Does anyone know if these lubes will burn off?
I'm guessing that heavier duty would hold temps better?

PS Sounds like some of us are closer than we thought to each other!
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I found a place in Hogeye, AR. Here is their ad:
METAL AND plastic 55 gallon drums for sale. Food grade. Great for food, feed or water storage. Call Hogeye 479-846-3664.
She said most of them held juices.
She also said that there were some others that I might be interested in. People use them to make wood burning heaters for shops and things. They are a little "heavier duty" but they held factory lubracants of some sort.
Does anyone know if these lubes will burn off?
I'm guessing that heavier duty would hold temps better?

PS Sounds like some of us are closer than we thought to each other!
Heavy duty good lubricant barrel not worth the risk. IMO Was down in Rogers few weeks ago for a interview with consumer labs nice town.
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On the "Fun Side":
Do you think those lubes are flammable? That would be neat to see anyway.
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Do you think those lubes are flammable? That would be neat to see anyway.
The first drum I did I picked up from a local industrial machine repair shop. The drums had mineral oil in them. They said lots of machines use mineral oil as the lubricants!! News to me... anyway... when I did the first burn there was some of the mineral oil in the bottom of the drum. It made the fire very easy to light if you know what I mean

Flames shooting way about the top of the drum mod!!!
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THAT sounds "worth it" to me!!! HAHA!
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If you cut the holes with a step bit to 13/16 and clean up the cut with a rat tail file the 1/2 inch pipe nipples should thread right in.
Got my new drum yesterday ... so I'm going to begin assembling my UDS this weekend - and will admit - I'm a little confused on the whole pipe nipple thing for the air intakes! Why do you drill a 13/16 hole for a 1/2 inch pipe nipple? What am I missing and do you have any close up pics?

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Got my new drum yesterday ... so I'm going to begin assembling my UDS this weekend - and will admit - I'm a little confused on the whole pipe nipple thing for the air intakes! Why do you drill a 13/16 hole for a 1/2 inch pipe nipple? What am I missing and do you have any close up pics?

Thanks for the help!
That confused me at first too... The inside diameter of the pipe nipple is 1/2 inch. The outside diameter is about 13/16. As you drill the holes make sure to check as you go up in hole size. Some pipe nipples seem to thread in at 3/4. Both of mine have required 13/16.

Sorry, but I don't have any pics of that specifically.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Which leads to another question - I assume there is some type of cap that screws to the pipe nipple to close off the pipe? And - can you get 1/2 inch pipe nipples at Lowes or Home Depot?

Brent - did you get my PM I sent you?

Thanks again!
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Thanks for the quick reply. Which leads to another question - I assume there is some type of cap that screws to the pipe nipple to close off the pipe? And - can you get 1/2 inch pipe nipples at Lowes or Home Depot?

Brent - did you get my PM I sent you?

Thanks again!
Yes, the pipe nipples are available at both HD and Lowes. Make sure to get the black ones and not the galvanized ones. The caps are right next to the nipples. All of it should be in the same section with all the other pipe stuff. If you choose to do a ball valve they should be right around the same area.

While you are there, make sure to check the electrician's nuts (now that could make a heck of an out of context) to see if they will go onto the pipe nipples.

I did get the PM and sent you the doc via email. I sent it at 8:24 AM. Let me know if you don't get it and I will send it again.

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