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Old 03-30-2014, 06:34 PM   #16
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Hard to say...sometimes things get weird. That is why they drop one score. I did similar with chicken, of course, that is not ribs. The best thing is to figure something went awry a bit, and work on texture, that box looks great though. Easy to see 9's in appearnace
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:45 PM   #17
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I agree a 2 is out of line. But, did the comment card say bloody or did it say raw? What I was getting at was you could have had an oddball piece, from an oddball bird,... and independent of whatever you did.... that one piece finished up with a bad texture (like maybe a bite that was springy and chewy, or one that was sticky and mushy) and that judge called it raw verses "under-cooked", or "chewy texture", etc.).

My story of getting a bad snotty thigh was just an example that happened to me.
No comment card. Normally that would be inexcusable, but I think it was while they had comments suspended with the implementation of KCBS Score.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:06 PM   #18
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Thanks!! We knew we were entering a stacked field of competitors. Getting a call was a huge confidence booster. Being our first 4 meat contest, we learned so much. No matter how prepared you think you are, you can never simulate the real thing. The pouring rain from 8AM on was a bit of a challenge but it was the same for everybody.

Can't wait to try again!

One interesting thing I found from reviewing the scores....the top 5 in ribs all came from the same table. Sounded strange to me. From looking at all the scores, it seems it was a hot table for all meats. I've heard of the table of death but it almost looked like it was 4 cold tables and one hot table. That one table had 1-2 in chicken, 1-2-3-4-5 in ribs, 3rd in pork, 3-4 in brisket. And of course, none of our 4 entries hit that table!!
Top five from one table seems out of line, especially when 6th was almost 5 full points behind. I always put more stock in where I finished at the table and who else was on that table.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:07 PM   #19
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I think in acknowledging that this was a Sam's Club contest you answered your own question.

Judges (certified KCBS, of course) are accepted based on who signs up first. No attention is paid to their experience.

We had a similar experience with a nutty judge at a Sam's Club event. After questioning the rep, who was not a regular in the region, we were told "sorry...I questioned the judge but can't require him to fill out a comment card".

Take it for what it's worth and move one. Don't beat yourself up.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:30 PM   #20
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As an MCBJ, I've had or seen at my table an instance of an undercooked rib entry when all the others from the same box were fine. It happened to my again a week ago. My bite was fairly chewy and need a good tug to get the bite free. Looking at my bite mark, nothing came off the bone at all. I gave 5 and 5 on T and T. Other judges had great ribs from the same entry. It does happen so quit whining and focus your energy on perfecting your ribs!
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:43 PM   #21
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As an MCBJ, I've had or seen at my table an instance of an undercooked rib entry when all the others from the same box were fine. It happened to my again a week ago. My bite was fairly chewy and need a good tug to get the bite free. Looking at my bite mark, nothing came off the bone at all. I gave 5 and 5 on T and T. Other judges had great ribs from the same entry. It does happen so quit whining and focus your energy on perfecting your ribs!
Nice to know that there's one MCBJ that knows the difference between 5 and 2.
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:50 PM   #22
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I hate that man, i highly doubt it was under cooked but unfortunately in the end it's up to the judge. Good luck next time!
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:19 PM   #23
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From what the reps told me, the judge refused to eat it because they thought it was raw...there is no test for ribs like there is with chicken. They said the only thing the judge could do was put a 2.

We are not beating ourselves up....we know it was cooked. Those 6 ribs were from the same rack and all in a row. It's not like we mixed & matched different racks.

We did get a comment card, which is when we saw the comment but did not get a visit from the reps. We tracked down the reps and they explained the judge refused to try it.

Next time, we'll just sauce up the sides.....then they gotta at least take a bite!!
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:12 AM   #24
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i could see if the judge bit it and said raw but just refusing to taste it does not sound right to me. after all the judge signed up for it. i say if a judge refuses then they disqualify themselves and as such disable themselves from making judgement and all nines should be given in such an event. i'm not sure but i think that is what is done if an entry is dropped by a judge.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:15 AM   #25
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Kindof hard to get pullback off the bone like that by grossly undercooking them -- just an observation -- That doesn't necessarily mean that a particular rib didn't leave something to be desired. I've seen the crazy score on brisket where I got all 9 and 8's and a 1 score on one. It was a mistake and had to be re input post contest! Stuff happens

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Old 03-31-2014, 09:39 AM   #26
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Something is wrong with that particular contest. It is great for Sacramento to get a Sam's qualifier, but the judging is historically low and this makes you scratch your head harder.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:02 AM   #27
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Did you have smoke ring all the way through the rib, so it looked completely pink on the edge? Maybe the judge confused that for raw.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:51 AM   #28
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As an MCBJ, I've had or seen at my table an instance of an undercooked rib entry when all the others from the same box were fine. It happened to my again a week ago. My bite was fairly chewy and need a good tug to get the bite free. Looking at my bite mark, nothing came off the bone at all. I gave 5 and 5 on T and T. Other judges had great ribs from the same entry. It does happen so quit whining and focus your energy on perfecting your ribs!
big diiference between calling "raw" vrs not cooked till tender..I have had some pork ribs that were really pink..however this one judge should be looked at
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:34 AM   #29
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We did get a comment card, which is when we saw the comment but did not get a visit from the reps. We tracked down the reps and they explained the judge refused to try it.
This dont sound right at all. Isnt there only 30 teams at the Sam's event? I have seen reps going around talking to teams and/or explaining weird scores at bigger events but in this case where there is such a discrepancy the team has to track down the reps??

I have also seen reps go to new teams after events to ask how things were and did they understand the scoring etc. But it seems in this case that wasnt done either.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:39 PM   #30
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reps, judge and table captain should have a talking to, that is crazy and uncalled for. BBQ is too expensive for that to happen to anyone
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