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Unread 10-09-2013, 03:17 PM   #31
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Aren't we just cooking meat in a parking lot folks?!!?
Last I checked, yep.

2 Rangers from 3/75, a female soldier on a cultural affairs team and an MP got whacked this weekend and many more injured. A portion of Black Ops Rub goes to the Wounded Warrior foundation. I'm sure it will be put to good use.

Seems both purveyors of fine rubs are doing their part to give back to the community.

This "debate" seems trivial in comparison.
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Unread 10-09-2013, 05:25 PM   #32
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Because some days I deal with stuff better than others...

Here you go "kids". Tell me again about how important anyone's GC's are.

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These names will be remembered, the winner of a meat cooking contest will not, or the maker of any rub.
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Personally, I took it as good natured ribbing. But what do I know?
As did I. Simmer down everyone.
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Good afternoon everyone,

Because this is my Brethren Ventures forum (I pay for it) and its primary purpose is to communicate our brand to current and would-be customers, I felt it necessary to respond to a few of the posts contained within this thread. Furthermore, since I believe in full transparency in life and in business, some of my answers will put a little egg on my face, and some won't, but all will be truthful and without error. Finally, please be assured, I do so with no disrespect or malice implied nor intended toward any of the posters quoted below.



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Funny Mike most of those teams buy my stuff. btw its Poppa.
Honest Answer: My original response was a knee-jerk gut response not rooted in actual specific knowledge. In reality, you are correct. Several of my teams have purchased BPS products. However, this is accepted and I do not discourage it. Our sponsorship agreement allows our teams to use other rubs besides Oakridge as long as they use Oakridge on a specific number of entries, dependent on the sponsorship Tier level they qualify for. That said, I don't typically ask them (or require them to tell me) what other rubs they are using in addition to Oakridge. So, I don't normally possess the knowledge of what other rubs our teams are using, quite frankly because it's part of their secret recipe and I don't wish to impose on that. The only thing I require is for them to only report the top ten calls they receive where an Oakridge product was used. I do not, nor have I ever, counted any other top ten calls they may have received where an Oakridge product was not used. This has been my hard and fast reporting guideline since the inception of my sponsorship program back in 2010.

Regarding the misspelling of Big Poppa, it was truly unintentional. Sometimes spell check is your best friend, other times, not so much. Sorry about that.


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hahahahaha Ask the rgc at the open....
Honest Answer: After this exchange, I did ask him. Without giving away too much, he used multiple rubs on his 1st place 180 Open brisket, one of which was an Oakridge product. The other(s) will remain nameless out of respect for the cooker. I can also certify that he used at least one Oakridge product on his 17th place Open chicken as well as his other two entries. As stated above, this falls within our sponsorship guidelines and there is no issue with any of my teams using other competitor's products as long as they use Oakridge on the minimum required categories for their Tier.


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One of your teams that you list sent me the link of this thread embarrassed.... thats how it got my attention
Honest Answer: I have asked internally for the embarrassed team to identify themselves so we could talk privately about why they feel that way. To date, all responses received back have been negative and no one has taken ownership of this. I have no reason to believe this didn't happen, but to date I cannot confirm that it did.


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Big Poppa Smokers makes great rubs, but the Elite program is so much more than that. For instance he is putting up $15,000 a YEAR to childrens charity in the name of the teams that finish 1st in each category and for the overall. Plus the comradery between the teams in the program is nothing short of amazing. I'm happy to be a part of it all.

You mention "Team Oakridge". I'll be honest and say I don't know what that is. Do you have a similar program?
Honest Answer: I am thrilled that another BBQ Rub manufacturer has decided to give back. As far as Oakridge BBQ is concerned, our core #1 guiding business principle has been charitable giving. Since day one, we have openly communicated on our website and our packaging that we donate a minimum of 10% of our net profits to Domestic and International Orphan and Homeless charities. While my pockets may not be as deep as others, last year we donated over 14.5% of our net profit to these charities. Additionally, at the release of our Black Ops Brisket Rub last December, we increased our giving to include an additional 10% net profit from the sale of that specific product toward the Wounded Warrior Project. While I don't typically oversell these core business practices because it's just not my way, they are intricately woven into the very fabric of who I am and who Oakridge is.

Finally, I'm not surprised you've never heard of Team Oakridge. We are a quiet bunch, typically. (Except when somebody boosts a golf cart at the AR and drives it around for a couple hours... LOL!) However, our sponsorship team has managed to amass over 1,200 top ten calls (Sanctioned contests only and only calls where an Oakridge product was used) in just the past three years. Not sure how big of a deal that is in reality, but it seems big to me.


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Mike,

I love your products, and plan to start competing in 2014 using them. You have a list of great teams that are winning big using Oakridge, and that is a credit to both you and those teams.

Having said that, and without taking anything away from their accomplishments, the BPS Elite Team is at another level. There is nothing wrong with that, and no doubt many of your teams would like to work their way to that level.

I am not certain what the requirements are to be a member of the BPS Elite Team, but clearly it isn't to use Big Poppa Smokers branded product only. Heck, one of his teams is a major player in the bbq rub market = Simply Marvelous, and the combination of their two products makes up the "West Coast Offense". As Big Poppa Smokers carries Oakridge products, I see no reason why a team such as I.A.B. 30 couldn't continue to be an Oakridge team next year while also being a BPS Elite team in 2014.

I would like to see Big Poppa make a spot open in his King of the Smoker event this December to a team of Mike's choosing, and let the results decide the winner of "Team Oakridge" vs "BPS Elite"
Honest Answer: Thanks for the business, DUBBAGA. Regarding the inferred Oakridge BBQ sponsorship requirements question; as I've mentioned above, I have no issues with our teams using other competitor's products and our Sponsorship Agreement specifically allows for it. However, I guess where I differ is open promotion of another's brand while acting as a member of another sponsorship team. It's nothing personal toward the other guy's rubs, I suppose it just boils down to a difference in practice regarding marketing strategy. Nothing more, nothing less.

Regarding the idea of a cook-off between the two teams; based on the hackles that were raised by my one benign comment at the start of this post, I don't think it would be in anyone's best interest to take this any further.


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Wes (RangerJ) - I appreciate your passion, but I'm not going to allow this thread or my business forum to devolve into a full-out battleground. I hope you understand, but I've asked to have your post removed. You know I love ya, but I refuse to allow this thing to explode any worse than it already has.
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Wow, this is about as passive agressive as it gets!

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Hey Mike...I read Ranger J's post (Im glad he isnt a judge and jury.)t....I read yours...I havent been back here since Monday....Sort of have better things to do...as you do also.

Thanks for the explanations and for the apologies....I accept. Contrary to the bully comments and other...I had no beef with you, your teams, or your products. The post was really from left field.....I totally didnt expect it from you...especially since I am a customer. As far as bullying I didnt start this and dont know how I could have bullied you in the first place.

We live in a divided country with a divided government and BBQ should be a place to escape it, not make it worse.

How about if we all just get along?
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Wes (RangerJ) - I appreciate your passion, but I'm not going to allow this thread or my business forum to devolve into a full-out battleground. I hope you understand, but I've asked to have your post removed. You know I love ya, but I refuse to allow this thing to explode any worse than it already has.
I would of asked him to remove it too..it made him look really misinformed and ignorant
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Hey Mike...I read Ranger J's post (Im glad he isnt a judge and jury.)t....I read yours...I havent been back here since Monday....Sort of have better things to do...as you do also.

Thanks for the explanations and for the apologies....I accept. Contrary to the bully comments and other...I had no beef with you, your teams, or your products. The post was really from left field.....I totally didnt expect it from you...especially since I am a customer. As far as bullying I didnt start this and dont know how I could have bullied you in the first place.

We live in a divided country with a divided government and BBQ should be a place to escape it, not make it worse.

How about if we all just get along?
Thanks for the reply, Sterling. Sorry for the slow response, I was up at deer camp getting some new stands hung the past two days. Sorry again for the drama. I'm glad to have you as a business partner, and I'd gladly cook with you any day. No reason for division whatsoever.
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All,

My apologies for my rant last week. I could type out my version of what sent me into that but at the end of the day, the "why" is not important. People should stand accountable for their actions and mine were out of line.

This community has always been helpful when I needed it and for that I am very grateful. After some time to reflect I found that I was being hypocritical of my previous posts and truth be told, I've never had conflict with anyone here, so again I apologize. Best of luck to everyone as they continue to chase their competition dreams.

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To follow up on some of those earlier posts, I'll leave you with a picture and a note from overseas.

I remain tied to this organization in many ways, personally and professionally. But this is more about the American spirit as it could be any Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airman. When our Govt. sits on their ass we have men like this.

Josh Hargis, a Ranger with the 3rd Ranger Battalion, was wounded last week in the attack that left four other members of his team dead. The 3rd was conducting a mission to try to capture a HVT(High Value Target), in the Panjwai district of Afghanistan.
With the little info we know so far, 36 members and a canine unit were attempting to capture a high value target in Panjwai in southern Afghanistan. When the troops arrived at the home, U.S. military officials said, the unit did a typical “call out” asking for those inside to come out.
One man appeared. Reports from the battlefield suggest he dropped to his knees and lifted his shirt to show the U.S. forces that he was not wearing a suicide bomb vest.
As several members of the Ranger unit moved toward the man to begin questioning him, a woman wearing a suicide vest emerged from the house and blew herself up, killing several members of the unit instantly, along with the dog, and injuring others.
Another Afghan male tried to escape from the compound.
As U.S. army medics, explosives specialists and others in the unit moved in to help the wounded, 13 improvised explosive devices went off, killing and injuring more U.S. forces.
Josh was one of the wounded and was evacuated for medical assistance. The photo below is Josh in a hospital in Afghanistan, right after the doctors stabilized his injuries. His wife posted this picture, along with what she received from Josh’s commander, this is a true warrior! No matter the pain we know Josh is in, he render’s the most beautiful salute you will ever see!





Note the Purple Heart on the Blanket and the Salute...


And this note from his wife, received from down range.


"I received this picture today along with a letter from the commander of the team Josh was a part of on the night of his injuries. A letter to explain to me what kind of man I have the privilege of being married to. He explained to me what happened and what was going on in the picture.
“Josh was seriously wounded as you know, and survived for almost two hours after his injury before arriving to the hospital. Josh was immediately pushed through a series of surgeries and emerged hours later into an intensive care unit here at our base in Afghanistan.


Despite being in intense pain and mental duress, Josh remained alert and compassionate to the limited Rangers that were allowed to visit his bedside. Prior to Josh being moved to Germany for his eventual flight to America, we conducted a ceremony to award him with the Purple Heart for wounds received in action.

A simple ceremony, you can picture a room full of Rangers, leaders, doctors, and nurses surrounding his bedside while the Ranger Regimental Commander pinned the Purple Heart to his blanket. During the presentation the Commander publishes the official orders verbally and leaned over Josh to thank him for his sacrifice.

Josh, whom everybody in the room (over 50 people) assumed to be unconscious, began to move his right arm under the blanket in a diligent effort to salute the Commander as is customary during these ceremonies. Despite his wounds, wrappings, tubes, and pain, Josh fought the doctor who was trying to restrain his right arm and rendered the most beautiful salute any person in that room had ever seen.

I cannot impart on you the level of emotion that poured through the intensive care unit that day. Grown men began to weep and we were speechless at a gesture that speak volumes about Josh’s courage and character. The picture, which we believe belongs on every news channel and every news paper is attached. I have it hanging above my desk now and will remember it as the single greatest event I have witnessed in my ten years in the Army.”

Regardless of my assclownery and ridiculous rant,I felt that tying this picture into those who I referenced earlier was important.
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