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Unread 08-30-2013, 04:31 PM   #31
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It has to do with when they are cutting the chuck off of the hanging carcass, the stroke of the knife, if you are really interested in maximizing the chuck, drags across the brisket in that spot where all briskets have that slice. The chuck is cut to be maximized, especially now that the chuck tender and under-blade cuts are selling at a premium.

It doesn't have to be, but, briskets are still an afterthought to the market.

That is when they are making the cut, not the why. There is a natural seam the are cutting to. There is no advantage to cutting in to the brisket. I guess that if they are working faster than they should, it is quicker to over cut than to follow the contour.
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Unread 08-30-2013, 07:31 PM   #32
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HFoS, the why is because they just don't give a rat's patootie about the brisket. I would bet that most of them assume it is headed to burger no matter what. Anyhting that steps away from "the norm" is just a "don't care" item of work.

I asked one of the local butchers I go to regularly what happens to all of the points they take off the packer briskets. He said they grind them up. So, I asked him to save me a couple, I would buy them whole. When I went in, assuming they would be around the cost of the premium ground beef, he said $8.99 a pound. WTH?! He said that the manager felt that grinding it was easier, and that he didn't want to hassle with saving a few points. When I talked to the owner, I mentioned that I felt oit was cheaper to sell me the whole point, than grind it up and extra labor, he said that it was special handling. B.S.
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Where do you order the braveheart briskets from?
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Still don't have a reply from Thursdays email to Creekstone.
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Still don't have a reply from Thursdays email to Creekstone.
The office was closed Friday and they won't be back in until Tuesday.
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The office was closed Friday and they won't be back in until Tuesday.

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I did get a reply from Courtney this morning after I re sent the original. She said she replied Thursday .It must have just got lost in the shuffle. I checked the junk mail its not there either. She basically said that she was sorry to hear about my problems . Here is what she said about the product shipped for retail.

Unfortunately, not all our briskets that are shipped out to retailers or foodservice distributors are truly usable for competition grade briskets.
Then she went on to give the reasons for ordering the internet ones they sell for comps. She also said she was passing on the email to the production folks.

Sorry for the large print I must have pushed a wrong button .Not much with computers.
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Unread 09-04-2013, 01:26 PM   #38
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That is weird. We sell Creekstone Prime Packers and have never had one with any cuts, gashes or sloppy butchering that I know of. I'll ask my clients and see if they've noticed it before to make sure I haven't sold briskets that they can't use for competition (though I assume they'd say something and we'd swap them for a new one if there was even a small cut).
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[QUOTE=joshcary;2612843]That is weird. We sell Creekstone Prime Packers and have never had one with any cuts, gashes or sloppy butchering that I know of. I'll ask my clients and see if they've noticed it before to make sure I haven't sold briskets that they can't use for competition (though I assume they'd say something and we'd swap them for a new one if there was even a small cut).[/QUOTE

The manager where I buy them has started asking other frequent buyers if they have had issues and its apparent they have . I did like the replacement brand they had when they were out .I asked if he could get them on a regular basis. He is checking.
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Follow up on this issue - The last 2 cases of comp briskets I've gotten have had a little more deckle fat left on the flat but no gashes. It looks like the cutters are leaving a little flat fat so they don't pierce the flat.
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I used one this last weekend in a comp and it had a slight cut in the flat. Wasnt anything major
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I've gotten 4 from them and 3 had slight cuts in the flat. None made a difference, but still made me wonder why they were there . Overall I was very happy with the brisket size and thickness.
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I used one this last weekend in a comp and it had a slight cut in the flat. Wasnt anything major
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I've gotten 4 from them and 3 had slight cuts in the flat. None made a difference, but still made me wonder why they were there . Overall I was very happy with the brisket size and thickness.
How long ago did you acquire them?
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How long ago did you acquire them?
One order was in July one was in August. Both times I ordered 2 briskets.
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How long ago did you acquire them?
I got mine last week... but it was from Paradise Meats.... and had been aged for 60 days before frozen. So I assume it was a few months old
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