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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:04 AM   #11296
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Lesson's or things I have learned about UDS's (personal opinions) in the last couple years:

1. Buying a clean new drum is worth it (unless you get lucky enough to get a cheap/free unlined drum w/ food safe oil in it). Also, if you can find someone to sandblast it inside out your avoid having to burn it out (some people will argue with I'm sure...). I spent $60 for a new drum and $20 to get it blasted. $80 is well worth avoiding hours of burning and sanding in my opinion...
2. Rustoleum flat black paint is your friend. Only paint the outside of your drum, the inside get "seasoned". Flat black is easy to touch up and actually blends in with itself. Yearly cleanup only take 5-10 minutes if you have a drill with a wire wheel and a can of this paint. I've just found w/ fun paint or patterns they end up looking like crap after a year or two and I'd rather spend my time cooking vs. stripping and repainting my entire drum.
3. Electronic controllers are wonderful. For day cooks I can get away w/ out them but for night cooks I'd rather sleep knowing everything will be ok. For example last week the temp outside dropped 30 degreees at night (wasn't aware it was supposed to) so I woke up to a brisket cooking about 20-30 degrees low....). I've had Wifi, digital display, and non digital display. They are all great but I've come to the conclusion a ique 110 and a wireless meat/pit thermometer do just fine. I'd rather spend less $ and keep it simple.
4. Season your drums inside properly and a rusty interior is only in your imagination. I buy 2-3 cans of canola oil from walmart and spray the entire inside. Light up some coals and let it burn at around 300 for a few hours and your done. Each cook if you notice bare metal spots spray a little oil before/during your cook and your good to go.
5. Weed burners are your friend. Lighting a drum becomes a 2-3 minute task. And until you learn to properly use it your neighbors might think jets are flying over head.
6. Read everything you can online and "borrow" ideas from everywhere and everyone so you end up creating your perfect drum. It will take building (or rebuilding) maybe 2-5 drums before you find what really works for you unless your lucky.
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Unread 08-24-2013, 12:28 PM   #11297
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ok so im only up to page 200 something on here im about to start building my u.d.s. but i need to know i want the weber grill cover but i also want the ability to use a weber rotisserie..so am i supposed to cut the lip to the drum or cut the top 2 inches of a old weber kettle and mod that it in
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Unread 08-24-2013, 12:44 PM   #11298
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ok so im only up to page 200 something on here im about to start building my u.d.s. but i need to know i want the weber grill cover but i also want the ability to use a weber rotisserie..so am i supposed to cut the lip to the drum or cut the top 2 inches of a old weber kettle and mod that it in

Tom I thought the rotisserie kit would fit right in the drum with no mods but I could be wrong... I know the ribolator fits. I was going to do one a while back but found spatchcocking birds there is no need to rotisserie in the UDS.
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Unread 08-24-2013, 12:47 PM   #11299
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Tom I thought the rotisserie kit would fit right in the drum with no mods but I could be wrong... I know the ribolator fits. I was going to do one a while back but found spatchcocking birds there is no need to rotisserie in the UDS.
It is my understanding that the WEBER rotisserie ring does not fit in the UDS. However, the Cajun Bandit and/or Ribolator stainless rings fit in the UDS upside down with no mod. I'm not an expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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Unread 08-25-2013, 02:05 PM   #11300
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Guess I had to add to this thread. It's helped me a ton. Check out my build. Link to the thread below.

http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=169137
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Unread 08-26-2013, 08:11 AM   #11301
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Default Rust on the inside - during build process

Hello All. I have been working on my UDS for a month or so - whenever spare time allows. My drum is bare cold rolled steel on the inside - a good problem. This weekend I finished most of the painting. I now have some lettering to do.

I notice that there is now a fair amount of rust on the inside of the drum - spotty. When I am finished with the painting, I will bring the drum up to 200 deg to cure the high temp paint. Then, I plan to raise them temp, and then spray inside with oil to season it.

Should I remove the light rust before seasoning?
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Unread 08-27-2013, 08:22 AM   #11302
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Default Concerned about a few galvanized parts in my UDS

Hello. I am only up to about page 100, so I apologize if this has been covered and re-covered too much.

I know (from reading this thread) that galvanized parts should not be used inside a UDS unless the galvanized coating is removed chemically or by super-heating.

I have chosen to just avoid using galvanized parts altogether since I don't have a weed-burner, a torch, or the required acid.

I used conduit nuts on the inlet nipples. The package said "Steel". Am I right to assume (now), that they are galvanized steel?

Should I be concerned about the 3 conduit nuts that are way down inside my UDS?

Thanks for any help.
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Unread 08-27-2013, 11:50 AM   #11303
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Should I be concerned about the 3 conduit nuts that are way down inside my UDS?
I don't believe so. It doesn't get hot enough at the bottom air intakes (That's where I assume they are at.) to create a situation where galvanize will offgas. Even if it does, I don't see where the ppm will get anywhere near what would be required to make you sick. The nuts I used are the same as yours and I have countless cooks on it and no one has gotten sick.
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Unread 08-28-2013, 04:57 PM   #11304
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Holy crap this is the longest thread ever, I'm maybe 1/10 of the way through but I have learned a TON! Thanks!
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Unread 08-29-2013, 12:33 PM   #11305
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"Should I remove the light rust before seasoning?"

I would. You can light sand wipe down the inside with denatured alcohol. The alcohol with evaporate away. Then season.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 01:42 PM   #11306
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Default 85 gallon UDS Finished!!!!

Just finished my ultimate UDS so I figured I would post on the ultimate UDS thread. Got most of my ideas here. Check out my build thread or photobucket slide show of build.

BBQ Brethern Thread- http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=169137

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Unread 08-29-2013, 02:03 PM   #11307
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Hello. I am only up to about page 100, so I apologize if this has been covered and re-covered too much.

I know (from reading this thread) that galvanized parts should not be used inside a UDS unless the galvanized coating is removed chemically or by super-heating.

I have chosen to just avoid using galvanized parts altogether since I don't have a weed-burner, a torch, or the required acid.

I used conduit nuts on the inlet nipples. The package said "Steel". Am I right to assume (now), that they are galvanized steel?

Should I be concerned about the 3 conduit nuts that are way down inside my UDS?

Thanks for any help.
No don't worry about the conduit nuts. I also have some galvanized washers and it's a non issue.
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Hello All. I have been working on my UDS for a month or so - whenever spare time allows. My drum is bare cold rolled steel on the inside - a good problem. This weekend I finished most of the painting. I now have some lettering to do.

I notice that there is now a fair amount of rust on the inside of the drum - spotty. When I am finished with the painting, I will bring the drum up to 200 deg to cure the high temp paint. Then, I plan to raise them temp, and then spray inside with oil to season it.

Should I remove the light rust before seasoning?
Yes you should wire brush the inside to remove the rust before seasoning. Also wipe it down well before painting and seasoning, I like to use low odor mineral spirits.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 03:33 PM   #11309
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Just finished my ultimate UDS so I figured I would post on the ultimate UDS thread. Got most of my ideas here. Check out my build thread or photobucket slide show of build.

BBQ Brethern Thread- http://www.bbq-brethren.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=169137

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Really nice looking build.
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Unread 08-29-2013, 04:01 PM   #11310
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Very nice build WombleNC .
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