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Unread 06-07-2013, 06:03 PM   #10966
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Personally I use ball valves on all three nipples, no fuss-no muss.
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Unread 06-08-2013, 08:54 AM   #10967
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So I jumped the gun and started my burn out last night with my weed burner. I believe it is all burnt out. I have a new unlined drum but it did have a greasy feel to it that is my I burnt it out. Better safe than sorry. Is there a certain look or feel you are looking for?
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Unread 06-09-2013, 02:19 PM   #10968
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If anyone NEAR ATLANTA,GA is looking for the perfect 55 gallon barrel for $20.00 to build a smoker (UDS-smoker) out of then give Charlie a call. These are UNLINED barrels so you don't have to burn the liner out and then wire brush it out after that (A lot of work)............

Not so true my friend about the perfect barrel or NOT having to burn them out because you can't see a liner. Unless you get a drum from right from a drum manufacturer or a reconditioning center, there will be a Liner in the drum. Its a Rust inhibitor and it is Clear. You think you are looking at bare metal, but your not. You still would want to do a burn out. just saying.

These barrels had food grade mineral oil in them and I did a scratch test and belive me there is no coating inside these barrels. I hear what your saying but believe me these are bare metal...I guess or would think that the mineral oil is rust preventive enough. BUT.....I did remove the paint from the outside with a weed burner so I guess you could say that it was burned out too.

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Unread 06-10-2013, 08:17 PM   #10969
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I am starting to get parts for mine. I was thinking of using this for a fire basket. It is 13.5" in diameter and 15" tall. Thoughts?

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Unread 06-10-2013, 08:19 PM   #10970
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Can't tell you friend. It looks like a small thimble to me.
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Unread 06-10-2013, 08:29 PM   #10971
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Can't tell you friend. It looks like a small thimble to me.
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Unread 06-10-2013, 08:35 PM   #10972
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I am starting to get parts for mine. I was thinking of using this for a fire basket. It is 13.5" in diameter and 15" tall. Thoughts?

Never used one but others have and i dont see why it wont. The only problem i see using this is the holes being too small or too few for the ash to fall through causing your fire to be smothered. If thats the case maybe you could drill the bottom holes a little bigger.
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Unread 06-10-2013, 08:35 PM   #10973
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How did you do that??

It looks plenty solid but my only concern would be, for lack of a better term, air flow. There seems to be more solid than hole. Would it breath right in the drum?
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Unread 06-11-2013, 09:22 AM   #10974
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Hello, I'm new to the forums and live in the UK. A BBQ in England generally means putting some cheap sausages over half lit coals soaked in lighter fluid.

However, a few years back I learned the dark arts of cooking meat over indirect heat and it's changed my world.

This is my first bash at a UDS. I like to call her Mwfanwy.



This is the day of her maiden burn. I've just seasoned the insides with veg oil and wanted to get the outside nice and hot to harden the paint. It took 4 tins of heat proof paint and she's still not red enough for my liking.



It cost a lot more than I expected but apart from sanding out the inside of a burnt out drum, it was a fun project.



I couldn't find expanded steel anywhere in the UK so the charcoal bin is an old washing machine drum with loads of holes drilled at the bottom.



One of the things that surprised me was how quick the temp goes up. 15 minutes into the burn and she was already coming up to 250f.



I was amazed by how easy it is to control the heat and how it just seems to hang there at that temp. This was 6 hours into the burn.




And finally, 12.5 hours into the burn I went out and checked and she was still parked at 270f. I've no idea how long she kept chugging along as I went to bed.

Next weekend I plan to smoke a pork shoulder and a fatty. It's fathers day on Sunday in the UK and I intend to spend it eating nothing but meat.

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Unread 06-11-2013, 10:46 AM   #10975
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Supes - good to see some fellow Brits on here sharing the knowledge with those back home! Your UDS looks great - is it Welsh Dragon Red by any chance? With a name like Mwfanwy I had to wonder!

My Brazilian friends fall about laughing when I show them photos of disposable grills in the UK...
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Unread 06-11-2013, 11:03 AM   #10976
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Supes, as CambuiAl said good to see more Brits actually appreciating decent BBQ!
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Unread 06-11-2013, 11:05 AM   #10977
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So - I have completed UDS Mk II - same idea as last time, with some modifications:

- new handles (the MkI has cheap and nasty handles that feel too lightweight)
- smaller main ball-valve - uses a 3/4" and not a 1.5" which is just too awkward to source the fitting parts for.
- Directional exhaust - this just turns, so you can move it depending on where the breeze is blowing from. It seems to make quite a difference.



I did a Brazilian Cupim on Saturday - this is the 'hump' from a Bramha bull, and it's a cut of meat with fat marbled through it, that benefits from a low & slow. I rubbed it with Dijon mustard first, then added some dry onion flakes and salt, and popped it in for 10 hours. Temperatures seemed fairly stable between 230F ~ 260F with my unreliable meat probe measuring ambient temps, and my overly-wide charcoal basket.

I foiled the meat for the last hour - the finished product:



The meat was pulling apart with a fork, and still really moist. There was a good smoke ring too:



Lessons learned for next time:
- I need the proper thermometer. I have an ambient one to fit this weekend, and a Maverick on order from Germany which will arrive in July.
- The new charcoal baskets will be 14" diameter (down from 18") as it needs to be more narrow to ensure the burn moves downwards nicely.
- The directional exhaust makes a difference if cooking outdoors without wind shelter - if the wind changes, and is blowing down the flue, it impacts the temps.
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Unread 06-11-2013, 01:15 PM   #10978
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looking good Supes
I'm having bother finding expanded metal as well,B&Q have some but it's a bit light
what size holes did you put in the washing machine drum and how many did you drill?
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Unread 06-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #10979
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Supes and CambuiAl - Nice looking UDS's...makes me want to go out and build another...if only I knew where I could get good ideas...hmmmmmmm
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I am starting to get parts for mine. I was thinking of using this for a fire basket. It is 13.5" in diameter and 15" tall. Thoughts?

I have used one & it works well as long as I used lump. With briquettes, esp KB, the ash would choke down the fire on long cooks. The bottom finally began to burn out. I ordered one of these & few weeks ago & so far really like it.
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