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Unread 05-06-2013, 10:28 PM   #16
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Kingsford blue is extremely consistent fuel. I use it almost all the time. I had two bad bags of Royal Oak a few springs ago. The must have been stored on a warehouse floor because they did not seem to come up to full temp. I have since used more at friends places and it was very good. Long story short, the blue has never let me down for over twenty years. It is not showy but I know it well. It reminds me of Jim Beam bourbon and Grain Belt beer. They might not be trendy but they are a great product that always gets the job done.
X2..... I've also been using Kingsford for years with great results, but been trying RO briq's lately a bit & think it's pretty good also. I also tried a few bags of Stubbs & didn't car for it. The KBB does tend to ash up & clog vents/air flow on longer cooks though from my experience. The KBB is consistent & buying it when it is on sale saves a lot of $ in a year of cooking too.
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X2..... I've also been using Kingsford for years with great results, but been trying RO briq's lately a bit & think it's pretty good also. I also tried a few bags of Stubbs & didn't car for it. The KBB does tend to ash up & clog vents/air flow on longer cooks though from my experience. The KBB is consistent & buying it when it is on sale saves a lot of $ in a year of cooking too.
what did you not like about Stubbs?

I think its excellent and doesnt have that off smell that KBB has lighting up which I dont want on my food when doing a minion burn on my vertical
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Kingsford gives consistent results for me in helping get an initial coal bed started cause it takes a pretty sizeable coal bed to keep my cooker temp up properly because of the design, which was not an accident and was intentional because I do not have a cold end or hot end in my cooker. It is about 50 degrees hotter right in the center back about 8"x18" where the heat/smoke comes in but the temp on each side of that will be within a 10 degree variance. What I do is start my fire with wood splits and fire up a chiminey full KBB and add to it and let that burn down until I have a sizeable and consistent/efficient coal bed and then throughout the cook, as needed, I add more wood. My beast takes a lot of "fuel" food to keep her running and I learned real quick that I couldn't afford to keep her fed anything other than wood. I would literally go broke trying to keep enough KBB or lump in there to cook with.
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Kingsford will throw white smoke at first, but then settle down. I wait until the white smoke is done and the temp is right to put my food on.
Using the fuse method, it never seems to clear and clean up. I'm strictly lump now and happy as a clam.
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I bought a two pack of the KB last Labor Day sale and still haven't opened the second bag yet. I seem to keep getting more bags of Stubbs and Kingsford Comp...
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It's like beer. I used to drink crap beer (BudMilloors), then I got my mind right. I'll still drink the swill when it's the only thing around. (Thankfully, it rarely is. And of course I apologize to all who love that beer. )

Same w/ BBQ fuel. Used to use KBB, and still will in a pinch, but now going mostly lump. I'll buy a twin-pack to have in reserve during the Memorial Day sale probably.

Lump prices are good right now, so I'm loading up. The True Value Cowboy online deal is great- $8.99/20# bag, plus $5 off any $30+ purchase. Trader Joe's hardwood briqs are $8.99/18# bag.

The reduction in ash alone is worth the price increase over KBB, imHo.
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Kingsford is not all things to all cooks. If I was Minion only it would be down on my list. I do a ton of indirect higher heat grilling and smoking on my old green Mastertouch Weber kettle. Tonight I will sear some brats, put them in a foil pan with onions and two beers and then cook indirect in the beer for an hour. The onion will be nice an browned and the brats will be perfect. I will toast to the Kingsford blue for being ideal for performance to price and then consume a Grain Belt Premium beer.
In a few weeks I will go wild on the memorial day sale and stock up on blue for the rest of the year.

I have this strange belief that a lot can be accomplished with a Weber kettle, a bag of Kingsford blue, a nice cut of meat, and some apple wood. 80% of my cooking is that simple but I don't neccessarily see it as simple cooking.
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Kingsford is not all things to all cooks. If I was Minion only it would be down on my list. I do a ton of indirect higher heat grilling and smoking on my old green Mastertouch Weber kettle. Tonight I will sear some brats, put them in a foil pan with onions and two beers and then cook indirect in the beer for an hour. The onion will be nice an browned and the brats will be perfect. I will toast to the Kingsford blue for being ideal for performance to price and then consume a Grain Belt Premium beer.
In a few weeks I will go wild on the memorial day sale and stock up on blue for the rest of the year.

I have this strange belief that a lot can be accomplished with a Weber kettle, a bag of Kingsford blue, a nice cut of meat, and some apple wood. 80% of my cooking is that simple but I don't neccessarily see it as simple cooking.
whats so strange about that?

sounds perfectly normal to me.
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Use it hot to kick off the minion method with lump in your UDS. or Buy a dutch oven.
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Exclusively lump. Kingsford smells bad as in stinky.

Messed up and seasoned a Mini UDS I built from a 15 gallon drum and it took me 4 burns with lump and mesquite chips to get the Kingsford stink out.
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Using the fuse method, it never seems to clear and clean up. I'm strictly lump now and happy as a clam.
Yeah, I've been meaning to try lump for a while, but I've used the minion method with the kingsford and didn't have the white smoke problem. I will admit though it does put out a foul odor when first lit.
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I use the Kingsford Blue almost exclusively in my OTG, for cooks ranging from minutes to 3-4 hrs. I've been pretty darn happy with it. Once and a while I might wish for more heat, but except for those rare times it does just what I want it to do. Very likely that my pallet isn't particularly refined, but I've had no issues related to taste or weird smell or anything of that nature. To each his own :)
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I tried the Kingsford Hickory last weekend, won't be monkeying around any more. I'm going back to Stubbs and staying, lights quicker and less ash, not to mention the food tastes better.
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what did you not like about Stubbs?

I think its excellent and doesnt have that off smell that KBB has lighting up which I dont want on my food when doing a minion burn on my vertical
To me Stubbs smells bad when lighting.... Maybe I'm just used to the smell of KB or had a bad couple of bags.... Smelled really strong/harsh to me.... Maybe I will try some again & see... Just my observations..... All brands seem to have their followers.... I also do mostly indirect grilling & some longer cooks on WSM & Performers (butts/brisket) & the KB does ash up pretty bad compared to the others.
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To me Stubbs smells bad when lighting.... Maybe I'm just used to the smell of KB or had a bad couple of bags.... Smelled really strong/harsh to me.... Maybe I will try some again & see... Just my observations..... All brands seem to have their followers.... I also do mostly indirect grilling & some longer cooks on WSM & Performers (butts/brisket) & the KB does ash up pretty bad compared to the others.
Stubbs smells natural to me. I run KBB in my kettle for basic grilling. I run lump for caveman steaks and run stubbs in my WSM for smoking. Seems to work for me.
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I use Kingsford a lot, I have tried Stubbs and I like Kingsford better. I guess its what Im use to. My only complaint with Kingsford is the amount of ash it leaves behind.
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