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Gravity Fed smokers and Grills We are the inventors of these Gravity Fed Smokers and Grills. Innovative and efficient, these BBQ Grills and smokers can burn multi-fuel of charcoal, Wood Pellet, Wood Chunks, Wood Logs and reach temps of 300C or 572 F.


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Unread 02-09-2013, 08:45 PM   #16
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In V5 there will be auto-tuning scale of graphing
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Unread 02-09-2013, 10:31 PM   #17
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Will it be possible to do a firmware update from V4 to V5?

So does V4 autotune P,I and D values? I have never seen them change.

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Unread 02-09-2013, 11:06 PM   #18
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No, V4 can not be upgraded.
You have to hand tune P,I,D. There is not autotune of P,I,D, in the LION.Smoker is just too complicated.

But in Elephant, outlet 80 -260 VAC, WIFI, dual probes, mainly designed for Sous Vide, P.I.D. can be autotuned
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Unread 02-10-2013, 02:29 AM   #19
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In a number of different threads you have mentioned that the Lion will 'learn' the pit. This means adjust PID values depending on the performance of the particular smoker. Are you now saying that this is not the case?

All other smoker controllers that I know of have a auto learn feature.

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Unread 02-10-2013, 03:08 AM   #20
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In a number of different threads you have mentioned that the Lion will 'learn' the pit. This means adjust PID values depending on the performance of the particular smoker. Are you now saying that this is not the case?

All other smoker controllers that I know of have a auto learn feature.

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please note difference betweem auto-tuning and auto-learning.
The PID controller is auto-learning. After a period of learning,the target will get closer and closer.
Auto-tuning refers to tuning value of P, I ,D. Optimastic data of P,I,D will SHORTEN auto-learning period, and swing away from target will be less.
DOG, WOLF, TIGER, LION are designed for stick smokers and do not have auto-tuning. You have to manually tuning P.I.D for best results. Default settings work too, but not at the best.
RHINO and Elephant are designed mainly for Sous Vide and have auto-tuning.
Rhino and Elephant can be used for stick smokers too if adding blower.
When Rhino and Elephant are used for stick smokers, I recommed not using auto-tuning function.
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Unread 02-18-2013, 02:21 PM   #21
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In V5 there will be auto-tuning scale of graphing
When will Lion V5 be ready to ship?
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Unread 02-18-2013, 07:49 PM   #22
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When will Lion V5 be ready to ship?
LION V5 shall be ready earlier April
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Unread 02-20-2013, 09:19 AM   #23
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Thanks! I'll watch for the availability and place an order.
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Unread 03-26-2013, 01:28 PM   #24
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LION V5 shall be ready earlier April
What is the expected ship date of the Lion v5?
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Unread 03-27-2013, 08:33 AM   #25
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What is the expected ship date of the Lion v5?
focusing on develop a remote monitor/controller for greenhouse.
BBQ controllers are all effected.
LION V5 is scheduled to be ready end of May
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Unread 03-27-2013, 09:56 AM   #26
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That's unfortunate, but being busy at your business is a good thing. I was looking forward to getting an order in for the next version of Lion.
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Unread 04-09-2013, 09:16 AM   #27
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I'm still in for Lion v5. It's too bad that it won't be possible to upgrade because I would get v4 now and upgrade later.
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Unread 04-18-2013, 10:43 AM   #28
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I am excited for V5 I will start saving my $ for when it releases!
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Unread 04-18-2013, 11:08 AM   #29
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I quit waiting and ordered a Wolf. I would have liked to spend the extra cash on the gadgetry :-)
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Unread 04-18-2013, 08:39 PM   #30
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WIFI thermometer is going to be ready next Monday. You can use this WIFI thermometer with WOLF
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